illuminati vs annihilators vs ultimates

battle of the uber teams.

illuminati--ironman (assume peak armor abilities), black bolt, xavier, strange, reed

vs

annihilators--quasar, surfer, ronan, bill, gladiator

vs

ultimates--blue marvel, spectrum (monica), cap marvel (carol), panther, ms. america

which team walks away?

Xavier puts them all to sleep.

biscuits

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Xavier puts them all to sleep.

biscuits

Good thread idea, but if the initial response is going to set the tone, not really worth putting effort into reasoning behind my choice, so, just going with Ultimates FTW.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
lol I remember that line, he even said Galactus.

He did have a great feat in AvX, but it's hilarious that Jessica Spider Woman with her SHIELD psi-shields was the one that could resist his TP attack...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He did have a great feat in AvX, but it's hilarious that Jessica Spider Woman with her SHIELD psi-shields was the one that could resist his TP attack...

Didn't Bendis wrote that illuminati issue?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
during the first secret wars era he had never done anything to suggest he could put all of them to sleep.

Didn't Bendis wrote that illuminati issue?

I realize that. He had major trouble with Enchantress alone, when she detected him and blocked with ease.

I believe so. Same as that AvX tie-in...

The Annihilators have the most raw power by a fairly wide margin, imo. But Strange and Xavier represent interesting challenges for the other teams. Others are being sarcastic, but not everyone on these rosters has psi defenses. Depending on how effective they can be, Illuminati could win.

Wow. Slight edge to Ultimates just because of what they have been able to accomplish. CM ability to power up to Binary levels by taking energy blast from enemies or teamates (has happened twice in first 8 issues) Monica's ability NOT to be hit and BM raw strength and antimatter power and MAC's power, savagery and ability to open interdimensional portals combined with near flawless teamwork is a lot. BP is very good at just staying alive. In situations like this, he always says "You don't have to worry about me" and I believe him. The underdogs win.

One problem with Carol could be that there is the possibility she could get overloaded like Collective did to her.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
One problem with Carol could be that there is the possibility she could get overloaded like Collective did to her.

I'd say the chances of that are very slight. She has clearly been inviting the chance to go Binary. She was not concerned about jumping into Thanos gun (😠 Thanos with a gun!) blast and likely didn't know the exact intensity of the blast.

annihilators

Originally posted by Decter
annihilators

The Ultimates are the weakest team here and the only real threats to the Annihilators from the Illuminati are Strange and Prof X. Bill and Surfer counter Strange and Prof X, then the rest of the team mops up.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yup.

The Ultimates are the weakest team here and the only real threats to the Annihilators from the Illuminati are Strange and Prof X. Bill and Surfer counter Strange and Prof X, then the rest of the team mops up.

Blue Marvel is at worst the second biggest threat among all teams. Also, the Illuminati is probably the least durable of three teams. Monica can get to Prof X before anyone on his team can react.

Blue marvel is a huge threat

But the annihilators have the most power overall as a team. And surfer is enough to give him a run for his money, and has the power and abilities to beat him 1v1 in a good fight

Originally posted by Decter
Blue marvel is a huge threat

But the annihilators have the most power overall as a team. And surfer is enough to give him a run for his money, and has the power and abilities to beat him 1v1 in a good fight

Totally agree there, but the Ults have proven to be super tactical. Really, really tactical.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Blue Marvel is at worst the second biggest threat among all teams.

That would be BRB or Quasar. Quasar's 'highs' sh|t all over most anyone on any of the teams. I'm talking blocking an attack from Thanos wielding the Infinity Gauntlet, creating a dome so powerful a small army of super humans couldn't break (Hulk, Thing, Wonderman, and more were included in that team), bringing a Rogue Watcher to his knees before Stranger jumped in and interrupted the fight, holding off Galactus by himself for a few while the FF did their thing, creating a solar flare that dwarfed an entire planet, etc...

Originally posted by zopzop
Nope.

That would be BRB or Quasar. Quasar's 'highs' sh|t all over most anyone on any of the teams. I'm talking blocking an attack from Thanos wielding the Infinity Gauntlet, creating a dome so powerful a small army of super humans couldn't break (Hulk, Thing, Wonderman, and more were included in that team), bringing a Rogue Watcher to his knees before Stranger jumped in and interrupted the fight, holding off Galactus by himself for a few while the FF did their thing, creating a solar flare that dwarfed an entire planet, etc...

That would be his his, he has plenty lows, so I disagree. Annihilus drained/ate him like a pack of crackers the give you with soup. BM is no less than the second biggest threat.

Originally posted by leonidas
-ironman (assume peak armor abilities)

Doesn't his current armor allow him to bring in like all his previous armors to fight?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
That would be his his, he has plenty lows, so I disagree. Annihilus drained/ate him like a pack of crackers the give you with soup. BM is no less than the second biggest threat.

Quasar would literally drink Monica and use her to amp his energy attacks and wipe out the majority of Team Ultimates.

Hell, Quasar has even bubbled up Binary form Ms. Marvel before and she was helpless to break free!

whoopsie!

Team Annihilators stomp.