Vader vs. Sidious: Force or sabers?

In which would Vader stand a better chance?

EDIT: if sabers, what about Force with no lightning?

RotJ Vader and RotS Sidious, Legends

Sabers, I guess. In a Force only bout he'd get lightning-rekt.

Vader would channel all the Lightning into his head and headbutt Sidious across the galaxy.

Is it stated if Sidious declined in canon in terms of Lightsaber skill?

No, Sidious would win both, but Vader would do better in pure sabers.

Sabers, unless Sidious can't use lightning.

Sidious stomps in all of them, but I suppose Vader would fare better in sabers.

If he's legitimately close to him in sabers, that's ****ing mind boggling and awesome at the same time.

Vader close to someone who stomped Maul and Savage?

A quote in a random sourcebook says so 👆

IIRC, Sidious and Vader had similar performances on Ryloth in LotS, but at the end, it's revealed that Sidious "revealed so little of his true power".

This is Legends.

Originally posted by carthage
If he's legitimately close to him in sabers, that's ****ing mind boggling and awesome at the same time.

If you buy that Zonakin is standard Anakin and Vader > Anakin in sabers, it's not that hard to believe. I have peak Anakin > Vader as a duelist though.

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Though Peak Anakin is in Sidious's tier as a swordsman. 🙂