Darth Plaguies vs Marka Ragnos

Started by Ziggystardust4 pages
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Think Ellimist is over his head as usual.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
@Ziggy I feel like responding to you on sdn and shattering your silly little persona there. But on Kmc, you're useless. On ignore you go. 👆

Then the battle has already been won 😂

A Terentatek is a physical monstrosity and Ragnos' specific beast was so powerful that its dark side presence was enough to cause a genuine tremor in the Force upon its death. These things are Rancors on steroids and they've killed the likes of the Qel-Dromas before.

Ragnos is infamous for being physically enormous among the Sith of his time, and the ability to thrash a powerful Terentatek nightly is on another level. Naga Sadow appears to be able to dual wield Sith swords in combat, which is a physical feat reserved for the most monstrous Massassi warriors. Again, he's nothing next to the immense physical strength of Marka Ragnos.

We can debate in terms of the Force but you claimed that Plagueis essentially ends it easily with a grnuine combat besides a Force exchange.

@WollfMyth

The Massassi Warriors wiped out the alchemically enhanced brutes throughout the neteorks of temples, yet they had no illusions about defeating Naga Sadow, knowing they'd all likely die trying. Evidently, busting armies and not getting injured is hardly unprecedented.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Living yes, but a fully resurrected Marka Ragnos is undoubtedly more powerful than the spirit of Exar Kun.
Why do you think that?

Because Exar Kun isn't so much more powerful than Marka Ragnos in life that even his spirit is superior.

AP, can you please give me a TL;DR version of where Ragnos compares to Plagueis and why?

A missed spirit, so you think he can beat Plagueis?

Also considering Marka's pet was ultimately defeated by a (prodigal) Sith adept and an even weaker Khem Val, I'm not convinced Plagueis would have any difficulty with it. Not when he's plunging his fists into torsos, smashing skulls and spines when mortally injured and 30 years before his prime.

Plagueis, quite handily.

Why do people think Nox defeated the beast of Ragnos? It was the freaking Wrath.

Oh yeah lol they killed a different one.

Kinda even less impressive tbh. mmm

No, the Wrath is the one with shitloads of personal power and strength, Nox uses spirits. Wrath would be likely far stronger than Nox at the start of the game.

Meh I doubt that, Nox was probably notably more powerful than the Wrath in his prime anyway.

Regardless, they are all scrubs in comparison to Plagueis.

I'm not sure if scrubs, but Plagueis is obviously above them.

Nah when you consider that Plagueis is in the same league as Master Yoda and B-team blitzing Sheev, they are scrubs.

The protags couldn't do shit to Revan, and Revan wouldn't be able to do much more than mild shit to Plagueis.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nah when you consider that Plagueis is in the same league as Master Yoda and B-team blitzing Sheev, they are scrubs.

I consider Plagueis half a tier below Yoda and Sidious, though. And tbh, Nox is above every B-Team member individually, at least in terms of Force power.

Plagueis would beat Nox, maybe without too much difficulty, but I don't think it would be a stomp.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
The protags couldn't do shit to Revan, and Revan wouldn't be able to do much more than mild shit to Plagueis.

I disagree. SoR Revan would not be shit to Plagueis.

Friend we are talking Nox & the Wrath at trainees though. 😉

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Friend we are talking Nox & the Wrath at trainees though. 😉

Ah. Then oops. 🙂

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Meh I doubt that, Nox was probably notably more powerful than the Wrath in his prime anyway.

Regardless, they are all scrubs in comparison to Plagueis.

The Wrath spends their time at the academy gets blowjobs for his immense strength while Nox gets spit on constantly. He also gets personally picked by one of the strongest Sith in the Empire as his apprentice, defeats the most promising student there and defeats one of the most celebrated instructors in Sith history while still at the academy. Nox gets picked up by a relatively obscure Lord like Zash and is treated like a nobody.

Then take a look at Dromund Kaas. Nox needs to cripple Skotia while the Wrath just rocks up to Gratham and teabags him.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The Wrath spends their time at the academy gets blowjobs for his immense strength while Nox gets spit on constantly. He also gets personally picked by one of the strongest Sith in the Empire as his apprentice, defeats the most promising student there and defeats one of the most celebrated instructors in Sith history while still at the academy. Nox gets picked up by a relatively obscure Lord like Zash and is treated like a nobody.

Then take a look at Dromund Kaas. Nox needs to cripple Skotia while the Wrath just rocks up to Gratham and teabags him.

Nox getting 'spit on constantly' is due to his status as slave, not to his lack of strength or power compared to anyone. In fact, he was clearly superior to one of the most skilled acolytes in the Academy and powerful enough to cruise through every single one of his trials, most like the Wrath.

And you can't know if Gratham is actually more powerful than Skotia, tbh.

Nox and the Wrath both shit on everything thrown at them in Korriban. One is hardly more impressive than the other. Mid-game, however, Nox > Wrath.