Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Mace Windu

Started by relentless14 pages

the Vaapaad being able to feed off of darksiders is the whole lynchpin of the pro Mace wankers saying that he beat Sidious fair and square...The form only amps Mace when he's got dark side to feed off of; its useless against Obi Wan

Kek, Vaapad is not useless against lightsiders. The superconducting loop aside it's still an improved version of Juyo.

On Topic: While Mace is indeed better than Kenobi, that doesn't mean he is guaranteed to win in sabers only. I think Mace's Vaapad is a favourable matchup to Kenobi's skillset.

Mace is also still able to channel his inner darkness...

Mace stomps tbh.

Windu.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Since when is Kenobi a better, or equal, duelist with Mace Windu?

Feats, accolades, and narrative, makes it pretty clear Windu > Kenobi in sabers.


Yeah, Mace is a better duelist. But in this scenario, Mace's vaapad wouldn't give him an amp like it did against Sidious, and Kenobi's mastery of soresu would counter Windu's aggressive fighting style. Obviously Windu takes force and all out though.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Windu brings the broom.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Since when is Kenobi a better, or equal, duelist with Mace Windu?

Feats, accolades, and narrative, makes it pretty clear Windu > Kenobi in sabers.

Based off their relative performances against Grievous.

Mace's age catches up with him in sabers. He makes a sloppy mistake and Kenobi goes for the kill.

Such cancer from the Kenobi camp.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Such cancer from the Kenobi camp.

Mace is an old ass man who relies on a form with very wide arcs and power attacks. Kenobi can hold-off Mace long enough like he did against Anakin until the older man gets tired and begins to overextend, slip, get sloppy, whatever etc. Both have flawless form so it comes down to form vs form. Vaapad is meant for use against dark siders; obviously this doesn't apply to Kenobi; otherwise it's just plain Juyo which Kenobi's Soresu is optimized for.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Such cancer from the Kenobi camp.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo

no rebuttal?

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Such cancer from the Kenobi camp.

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Oh, I plan to tackle all your arguments tomorrow. Too sleepy to post any more than 2-3 sentences right now. So, I I'm only gonna troll and talk shit right now. 🙂

People trapped in 2012, seriously. Maybe the calendar really did end there for some people?

Are people still taking the Mace VS Grievous duel seriously? LOL, it was a very small sequence of moves(even the RotS novel notes that) and Grievous was overpowering Kenobi in slightly more time than that, so the comparison is extremely flawed.

Windu may yet live. If Disney does decide to bring him back I am going to use this to stab at the weak heart of the Palpatine camp.

Originally posted by MythLord
Are people still taking the Mace VS Grievous duel seriously? LOL, it was a very small sequence of moves(even the RotS novel notes that) and Grievous was overpowering Kenobi in slightly more time than that, so the comparison is extremely flawed.

It calls the fight between the two an exchange in the RotS novel. Not a small sequence of moves.