Han Solo vs Luke Skywalker (H2H)

Originally posted by quanchi112
Han was always trash.

🙄 Says the guy who clearly knows nothing about Han and is furiously trying to prove Trek is better at war aspects than SW.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Which is blades not fists

It's the same basic muscle movements, lol. There's no reason to think Luke would be massively weaker than Vader, yet be able to match him and push him back when they clashed.

and Han has shown to be pretty strong and durable, able to take hits from both peak humans and superhumans alike. I'm not sure Han would get one shotted by ROTJ Luke.

Not sure what "one shotting" would entail, but Luke at this point has developed his precognition to the point where he can direct focused blaster fire, so yeah, he's obviously not going to have trouble with Han Solo if he takes his gloves off. I think this becomes a lot more one-sided if we look through Luke's feats in the EU from around this time, when he is already capable of moving at blurring speeds and performing other crazy maneuvers.

And as you said, by Dark Empire he just crushes Han's face in with a finger.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
It's the same basic muscle movements, lol. There's no reason to think Luke would be massively weaker than Vader, yet be able to match him and push him back when they clashed.

Not sure what "one shotting" would entail, but Luke at this point has developed his precognition to the point where he can direct focused blaster fire, so yeah, he's obviously not going to have trouble with Han Solo if he takes his gloves off. I think this becomes a lot more one-sided if we look through Luke's feats in the EU from around this time, when he is already capable of moving at blurring speeds and performing other crazy maneuvers.

And as you said, by Dark Empire he just crushes Han's face in with a finger.

Well obviously Luke as of ROTJ wouldn't have any trouble with Han either, but I was meaning one shotting as in like one hit with a fist would take Han out of the fight.

Which I don't think is likely given Han's durability.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
🙄 Says the guy who clearly knows nothing about Han and is furiously trying to prove Trek is better at war aspects than SW.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Han is trash. He isn't some badass and his only truly exceptional talents were that of a pilot not a hand to hand fighter.

Piloting is one of his great talents, but if you've read some Han material, he's a pretty great Hand to Hand fighter too.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Piloting is one of his great talents, but if you've read some Han material, he's a pretty great Hand to Hand fighter too.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In the films he isn't exceptional at all. He's a guy who can beat up some randoms sure but I wouldn't even give him odds against Kelvin Kirk.

Well of course obvious film wise he doesn't have any particular hand to hand showings, except for 1 that was mostly off screen.

EU wise though, Han is a fantastic H2H combatant.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Well of course obvious film wise he doesn't have any particular hand to hand showings, except for 1 that was mostly off screen.

EU wise though, Han is a fantastic H2H combatant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have to realize I don't read the eu.

Yet you continue to post in EU threads?

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Yet you continue to post in EU threads?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Arguing canon and film versions. 🙂

But you've posted in threads which have nothing to do with those.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
But you've posted in threads which have nothing to do with those.

Originally posted by MythLord
Anakin and Clovis didn't have Anakin using the Force and was TCW PIS, Maul was playing with Viszla, Obi beat Jango, etc... And those are all decent Force sensitives, sure... but this is Luke, y'know the most powerful Jedi ever. He's an slaughter timing Han.

Yeah, later on. During the actual hand-to-hand exchange, Anakin wasn't using Force augmentation because if he was, Clovis would've been a dead pulp on the floor.

And why bump this thread for such a miniscule point, Jmangoham?

Luke crushes him with ease, total non-fight.

Originally posted by MythLord
It already happened in Dark Empire, Han got dominated by one hand:

Luke looks a lot taller than Han there.

Shadows of the Empire (basically just after ANH) Luke defeated Guri who was stated to be superior to anyone in H2H combat sans force users. Tbf, he did get his ass kicked before calling upon the force, but Han has no chance against Luke. If not augmented, Han is larger, calloused, and presumably more experienced.