Ancient Sith above Vader?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Nice ad hominem fallacy. Too bad you aren't capable of actually refuting any of his analysis, eh?

And you're the rather unintelligent guy who everyone makes fun of because you think repeating "common sense" and "nerd math" makes you sound smart, and that your bluff of not understanding the calculations you're mocking is totally being bought by everyone. 🙂

Oh you're getting emotionally charged up. Wasn't going for that but that's your bias tugging at your heart strings. The calculations aren't proven. Tell me this do you believe the star destroyer can blow a planet away due to its raw power ?

Originally posted by The Merchant
If we go by official sources extremely large turbolasers can crack the core of a planet. Downscale from that and even Light turbolasers can destroy countries tbh.

Following without a doubt:

- Sith Emperor
- Darth Nihilus
- Exar Kun

Additional candidates (debatable category):

- Darth Malgus
- Darth Thanaton
- Darth Nox (with Force ghosts)
- Marka Ragnos
- The Emperor's Wrath II
- Karness Muur
- Darth Revan
- Naga Sadow
- Darth Jadus
- Darth Marr
- Tulak Hord
- Ajunta Pall

Possibly even more.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Additional candidates (debatable category):

- Darth Malgus
- Darth Thanaton
- The Emperor's Wrath II
- Darth Jadus
- Darth Marr

Possibly even more.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

I love the way you kids verbally fellate other people. It's adorable.

I love the way those other people make up some of the most ridiculous arguments and opinions. It's like watching a kid calling gravity, magic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Can. Key word. How many shots.

Given the size of the meteors they're capable of vaporizing one would assume a single shot would do massive damage to any settlements inhabiting said planet that was fired upon. Considering that these are the small turbo lasers that are capable of this feat..

Originally posted by Chosen_Sith
Given the size of the meteors they're capable of vaporizing one would assume a single shot would do massive damage to any settlements inhabiting said planet that was fired upon. Considering that these are the small turbo lasers that are capable of this feat..

Originally posted by quanchi112
Massive damage yes but the asteroids aren't near the size of earth. The asteroids also vaporize each other because it looks cool not because some nerd was cramming numbers and calcing the feats out in the editing room.

An asteroid doesn't need to be earth sized to do enough damage to leave massive devastation. It doesn't matter if they did it to "look cool" the fact of the matter is that is the ships capable firepower with the small turbo lasers. It has enough firepower to vaporize large ship sized asteroids. It's only logical to assume the small turbo lasers have more power than large asteroids. This means, logically speaking, a barrage from the small turbo lasers would be like beating a planet with an asteroid field.

Except it is even more than that. When an asteroid enters a planet's atmosphere it begins burning up. Therefore, it loses a lot of it's mass, and power. In this case a turbo laser wouldn't. A barrage of small turbo laser fire would annihilate a country with capable ease. If not even more than a country. The large turbo lasers? We can only speculate the damage they'd do but by simple scale it would be apocalyptic at the very least.

Originally posted by Chosen_Sith
An asteroid doesn't need to be earth sized to do enough damage to leave massive devastation. It doesn't matter if they did it to "look cool" the fact of the matter is that is the ships capable firepower with the small turbo lasers. It has enough firepower to vaporize large ship sized asteroids. It's only logical to assume the small turbo lasers have more power than large asteroids. This means, logically speaking, a barrage from the small turbo lasers would be like beating a planet with an asteroid field.

Except it is even more than that. When an asteroid enters a planet's atmosphere it begins burning up. Therefore, it loses a lot of it's mass, and power. In this case a turbo laser wouldn't. A barrage of small turbo laser fire would annihilate a country with capable ease. If not even more than a country. The large turbo lasers? We can only speculate the damage they'd do but by simple scale it would be apocalyptic at the very least.

Point is this is entire speculatory which is what I tend to try to avoid basing claims off of.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Vitiate is clearly above Vader. So is Revan, if we're counting him.

Kun and Ragnos should be around Vader's level.

Hord, Nadd, Sadow, Pall, and Muur should be slightly below.

😂

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
I love the way you kids verbally fellate other people. It's adorable.

Sick and disgusting.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Sick and disgusting.

Originally posted by AncientPower
😂

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

He laughed. Problem? 🙂

I figure Vader has several peers amongst the ancient DLOTS'. At the very least, such is implied by the council on Korriban reserving a seat for him in Dark Empire. From what we've seen of Karness Muur, Naga Sadow, Freedon Nadd, Exar Kun, and Darth Revan, it's not outside the realms of possibility that the likes of Marka Ragnos or Tulak Hord could have been Vader's betters.

Still, bar Vitiate, there shouldn't have been any Sith in the Old Republic era whose powers surpassed Vader's by any sizable amount.

@NewGuy01 - Of all the Ancient Sith, who do you have above Vader?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I figure Vader has several peers amongst the ancient DLOTS'. At the very least, such is implied by the council on Korriban reserving a seat for him in Dark Empire. From what we've seen of Karness Muur, Naga Sadow, Freedon Nadd, Exar Kun, and Darth Revan, it's not outside the realms of possibility that the likes of Marka Ragnos or Tulak Hord could have been Vader's betters.

Still, bar Vitiate, there shouldn't have been any Sith in the Old Republic era whose powers surpassed Vader's by any sizable amount.

Is my answer. Because of how vague and unknown these characters are, it's impossible to say for sure if they're stronger or weaker than him, but I think that there are several that could be considered his peers. Karness Muur and Exar Kun are the most measurable examples.

Vitiate is the only one who is definitely above him.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
He laughed. Problem? 🙂