Ulic Qel-Droma vs Arcann

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Ulic Qel-Droma vs Arcann

Who takes this?

Didn't we just have this? It's practically a tie.

Ulic.

They're essentially dead-locked in terms of Force powers, but Ulic is simply better in combat.

Yeah, I posted this like a week ago. I think you posted on it, too.

Damn.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Yeah, I posted this like a week ago. I think you posted on it, too.
You put the effort to post in here and not in my mad interesting battle with Palpatine's half-dead corpse

eh

Well, I saw an opportunity to nag at Ant and I took it. 😎

Haven't we had this thread twice before this?

Arcann in all aspects.

Ulic, great fight.

Ulic could never do what Arcann did to the Outlander. And blocking Valkorions lightning >>>> blocking cannon fire.

Why not?
Barely blocking lightning for 5 seconds. Said lightning only powerful enough to destroy the lifeforms inside ships and knock ships down, whereas Ulic casually deflects blasts powerful enough to destroy starfighers and damage capital ships.

That lightning was just the excess cast-off from the main attack that Arcann was blocking. The true assault on Arcann would be many times more powerful than what the ships were hit by. It was also spread out over a massive area, unlike cannon fire. If all the energy had been concentrated in a direct attack, it would eclipse weak-ass cannon fire by orders of magnitude.

That even the excess energy from the main attack, spread out over so much area can wipe out all life on those ships, is insane by itself. The main attack would be mind-boggling. Valkorion also wipes out a small army of Zakuul Knights and Skytroopers in a single attack, that was likely far weaker than the one he used on Arcann.

In fairness, Ulic did that on a DS nexus and as a Jedi, did he not? He would've improved considerably since, and he actually succeeded in defending against it with no real trouble, whereas Arcann used all of his power to repel Valkorion's attack and was still overwhelmed.

He did it killing the Mandalore, but he still grew immensely in power following that.

Originally posted by MythLord

Barely blocking lightning for 5 seconds.
Yeah, more like 50 seconds.

Originally posted by SunRazer
In fairness, Ulic did that on a DS nexus and as a Jedi, did he not?

No.

Originally posted by AncientPower
He did it killing the Mandalore, but he still grew immensely in power following that.

Proof? I thought him fighting Mandalore was at the tail-end of the series.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That lightning was just the excess cast-off from the main attack that Arcann was blocking. The true assault on Arcann would be many times more powerful than what the ships were hit by. It was also spread out over a massive area, unlike cannon fire. If all the energy had been concentrated in a direct attack, it would eclipse weak-ass cannon fire by orders of magnitude.
That even the excess energy from the main attack, spread out over so much area can wipe out all life on those ships, is insane by itself. The main attack would be mind-boggling.

It is your conjecture that the blast on Arcann is "many times more powerful" than the excess cast off. And the cast off didn't even damage the ships, just killed their pilots which then caused the ships to crash. It was more flashy than powerful, honestly.
The fact that the cannons Ulic deflected can actually destroy massive ships would be better than a blast that could kills a few pilots but not damage the ships themselves.
I also question why you bring up the attack being spread out, given that Arcann was only deflect one portion of the attack barely, so if it was concentrated, even if superior the cannons Ulic deflected, it would've fried Arcann to a crisp.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Valkorion also wipes out a small army of Zakuul Knights and Skytroopers in a single attack, that was likely far weaker than the one he used on Arcann.

Again, your conjecture. I want something concrete.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Proof? I thought him fighting Mandalore was at the tail-end of the series.

It appears some education is required.

Firstly, Ulic as a Jedi was already a Master of the Force and lightsaber cpmbat, perfecting his abilities as a swordsman:

While his brother [Ulic] perfected his combat skills by defeating training droids, Cay was more interested in putting the dismantled droids back together.
- Power of the Jedi Sourcebook
Two of the most famous of these Jedi warrior's were Ulic Qel-Droma and Nomi Sunrider. Young Jedi Knights of great power, who learned to master the ways of the Force.
- Tales of the Jedi Audio Drama

Then Ulic was corrupted to the Dark Side during his ime im the Krath, gaining 'tremendous', 'immense' powers:

Ulic was then confronted by another fallen Jedi, Exar Kun. As they engaged in a lightsaber battle, the Sith Amulets both Jedi wore began to glow, and they were visited by spirits of the Ancient Sith Lords who told them that Kun was the new Dark Lord of the Sith and Qel-Droma his first assistant. Years later, Ulic reappeared with tremendous dark side powers and set out to plunder and destroy large parts of the galaxy with a large and bloodthirsty army serving alongside Exar Kun.
- The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
During the years he_[Ulic]_had transformed completely, into a warrior magus with dark powers far beyond those demonstrated by any other member of the Krath!
- Dark Empire Endnotes

The first thing Ulic does is fight the Mandalorians who attack Krath space, thrn Ulic battles Republic troops on Raxus Prime, attacks Coruscant, gets imprisoned by the Jedi until Exar Kun sets him free then they attack Ossus and Ulic finally has his powers severed by Nomi Sunrider. Note this is not including the other battles in the war that we don't see.

Ulic was constantly growing more powerful as we can see.