Famed Sith swordsmen battle.

Did you miss the part where Sidious walked into the room and pinned Maul and Savage to the wall while laughing before allowing them to hang with him?

malgus tossed them around but still lost
>logic
did they even have their sabers up

when did he influence them telepathically, was unaware

which power boost?

maul easily held off qui gon n obi wan at the same time, qui gon alone has better feats/accolades than satele/kao/ven (ven who malgus barely beat)

malgus destroyed the fighter ships with a scream because he overloaded their motors iirc, maul destroyed barracks as a child with a scream

yh lightning is good, maul can dodge tho

n maul has his own force feats, i can't remember most because it's been so long i read anything sw related, but moderate TK, moderate TP, mechu deru, various use of cloak + most likely more powerful than qui gon who is impressive force wise

n maul is definitely more skilled lol, do we even have any accolades on malgus' skill? maul is one of the most skilled ever and a juyo master

Originally posted by nedemette
malgus tossed them around but still lost
>logic
did they even have their sabers up

when did he influence them telepathically, was unaware

which power boost?

maul easily held off qui gon n obi wan at the same time, qui gon alone has better feats/accolades than satele/kao/ven (ven who malgus barely beat)

malgus destroyed the fighter ships with a scream because he overloaded their motors iirc, maul destroyed barracks as a child with a scream

yh lightning is good, maul can dodge tho

n maul has his own force feats, i can't remember most because it's been so long i read anything sw related, but moderate TK, moderate TP, mechu deru, various use of cloak + most likely more powerful than qui gon who is impressive force wise

n maul is definitely more skilled lol, do we even have any accolades on malgus' skill? maul is one of the most skilled ever and a juyo master

Exactly.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Did you miss the part where Sidious walked into the room and pinned Maul and Savage to the wall while laughing before allowing them to hang with him?

I know, I'm not trying to argue that Maul and Savage > Sidious. But Malgus would get the same treatment, Sidious would tear him a new one.

Originally posted by nedemette
malgus tossed them around but still lost
>logic

Are you saying that he didn't toss them? Because he did. 😬

And these are people like the Barsen'thor, who has tossed a bus-sized solid chunk of metal a hundred feet casually while weakened and at the start of her career and smashed through building-sized blast doors and impenetrable rakatan vault door, the Hero of Tython, who is even more powerful than the Barsen'thor, the Emperor's Wrath, who disintegrated a blast door with some aid and defeated the godlike being Sel-Makor and Darth Nox, who utterly humilated Thanaton, one of the greatest sorcerers to ever live and has the power of 5 force ghosts to call upon.

but no maul can obviously do that those guys have nothing on him

Originally posted by nedemette
did they even have their sabers up

Nox and the Wrath have force defenses.

Originally posted by nedemette
when did he influence them telepathically, was unaware

During the fight. When he fights someone solo while ragdolling the other players a text comes up saying Malgus is "filling your mind with visions of doubt."

Originally posted by nedemette
which power boost?

In Deceived, Malgus achieves a permanent state of, what he calls, oneness with the darkside giving him an immense boost in power. He goes from Aryn Leneer being able to block his lightning in mid-air prior to it, to "almost casually" blasting her lightsabers out of her hands and knocking her unconscious afterwards.

Originally posted by nedemette
maul easily held off qui gon n obi wan at the same time, qui gon alone has better feats/accolades than satele/kao/ven (ven who malgus barely beat)

Qui-Gon doesn't have better feats than them actually. Satele and Zallow were blitzing elite Sith Warriors easily and Leneer could move so fast milliseconds seemed like minutes. And this was all before Malgus' huge increase in power, at which he was capable of holding his own for extensive periods of time against the Strike Team which included Maul-tier duelists and well as greater than Maul-tier force users and top-tier non-force sensitive fighters.

Originally posted by nedemette
malgus destroyed the fighter ships with a scream because he overloaded their motors iirc, maul destroyed barracks as a child with a scream

No he didn't. and it doesn't matter how he did it, Malgus' scream still wiped out a squad of fighters.

Originally posted by nedemette
yh lightning is good, maul can dodge tho

Pretty sure Maul has never dodged lightning, actually. And he can't dodge forever.

Originally posted by nedemette
n maul has his own force feats, i can't remember most because it's been so long i read anything sw related, but moderate TK, moderate TP, mechu deru, various use of cloak + most likely more powerful than qui gon who is impressive force wise

Moderate abilities won't help him, Malgus will still ragdoll him. Maul has nothing on the Barsen'thor in terms of TK, who was still nothing on Malgus herself.

Originally posted by nedemette
n maul is definitely more skilled lol, do we even have any accolades on malgus' skill? maul is one of the most skilled ever and a juyo master

Malgus was already one of the greatest Sith Warriors before the invasion of Korriban, at which point he defeated the immensely-skilled Jedi Battlemaster Darach. He defeated some of the greatest duelists of his time, and easily matches Maul as one of the most skilled ever. Sidious has also stated that Malgus was "am exemplary warrior. His battlefield feats have never been duplicated." Sidious also included Malgus as one of his most powerful predecessors. The HoT also noted that Malgus' bladework was "flawless".

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
I know, I'm not trying to argue that Maul and Savage > Sidious. But Malgus would get the same treatment, Sidious would tear him a new one.

So basically it doesn't indicate anything one way or the other. Right.

While I don't doubt Malgus got a power boost from Deceived to False Emperor, doesn't it sound odd that, as Ned said, Malgus was able to choke out 3/4 of the strike team and TP the other, and still lose, sound....completely and utterly retarded? Coupled with the fact that it's a freaking game mechanic feat, (Darth Soverus achieved something similar/superior to what Malgus did; and he still lost,) and I agree with Ned: the "feat" isn't very helpful.

Because Malgus isn't able to choke the Barsen'thor and defeat the Hero of Tython in sabers at the same time, its retarded? 😬

It's retarded that he can choke the Hero, 'Thor, and Trooper at the same time, and duel the Smuggler for 30 seconds, yeah. 🙂

That would be retarded yes because if he could choke the force users then he should be able to do the same to the non-force users so its not worth considering that possibility when the far more sensible scenario exists as I outlined.

The, "far more sensible scenario," obviously isn't what you take into account when considering the Cipher/Jadus fight, and given that Darth Soverus, (whoopdie-freaking-doo,) has choked out all 4 protags with TK and still lost, I don't think it's sensible at all to assume Malgus even accomplished the feat. And being able to choke out Barsen'thor and the 2 non force sensitives and duel the Hero, yet still lose, is still retarded, yeah.

smh

Originally posted by Nephthys
Are you saying that he didn't toss them? Because he did. 😬

Originally posted by Nephthys
And these are people like the Barsen'thor, who has tossed a bus-sized solid chunk of metal a hundred feet casually while weakened and at the start of her career and smashed through building-sized blast doors and impenetrable rakatan vault door, the Hero of Tython, who is even more powerful than the Barsen'thor, the Emperor's Wrath, who disintegrated a blast door with some aid and defeated the godlike being Sel-Makor and Darth Nox, who utterly humilated Thanaton, one of the greatest sorcerers to ever live and has the power of 5 force ghosts to call upon.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Nox and the Wrath have force defenses.

what's your point lmao, i didn't question their power. but malgus being able to so easily toss them around then losing makes zero sense, either he's retarded or they weren't ready for his attack (again did they even have sabers up)

Originally posted by Nephthys
but no maul can obviously do that those guys have nothing on him

Originally posted by Nephthys
During the fight. When he fights someone solo while ragdolling the other players a text comes up saying Malgus is "filling your mind with visions of doubt."

Originally posted by Nephthys
In Deceived, Malgus achieves a permanent state of, what he calls, oneness with the darkside giving him an immense boost in power. He goes from Aryn Leneer being able to block his lightning in mid-air prior to it, to "almost casually" blasting her lightsabers out of her hands and knocking her unconscious afterwards.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Qui-Gon doesn't have better feats than them actually. Satele and Zallow were blitzing elite Sith Warriors easily and Leneer could move so fast milliseconds seemed like minutes.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And this was all before Malgus' huge increase in power, at which he was capable of holding his own for extensive periods of time against the Strike Team which included Maul-tier duelists and well as greater than Maul-tier force users and top-tier non-force sensitive fighters.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No he didn't. and it doesn't matter how he did it, Malgus' scream still wiped out a squad of fighters.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Pretty sure Maul has never dodged lightning, actually. And he can't dodge forever.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Moderate abilities won't help him, Malgus will still ragdoll him. Maul has nothing on the Barsen'thor in terms of TK, who was still nothing on Malgus herself.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Malgus was already one of the greatest Sith Warriors before the invasion of Korriban, at which point he defeated the immensely-skilled Jedi Battlemaster Darach. He defeated some of the greatest duelists of his time, and easily matches Maul as one of the most skilled ever.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Sidious has also stated that Malgus was "am exemplary warrior. His battlefield feats have never been duplicated." Sidious also included Malgus as one of his most powerful predecessors. The HoT also noted that Malgus' bladework was "flawless".

Neph don't waste time with this *******. It's Intrepid.

Why are we assuming the protagonist beats Arcann in lightsaber combat or without circumstances?

Why the Fugg r u assuming this is sabers only

Originally posted by AncientPower
Sith Warriors

Empire's Wrath(KOTFE Chp.15)
Ulic Qel-Droma
Exar Kun
Emperor Malgus

vs

Order of the Sith Lords

Darth Vader(ROTJ)
Darth Maul(TPM)
Darth Bane(DOE)
Count Dooku

Setting: Trayus Academy

In an all-out, team 1 probably wins, to be perfectly honest.

Exar > Vader
Ulic >= Maul
Wrathlander > Dooku
Malgus > Bane

Vanilla Wrah would lose badly to Dooku, and then team 2 might have a shot, although it would still be unlikely.

In pure sabers, team 2 takes it:

Exar ~ Vader
Ulic <= Maul
Wrathlander <= Dooku
Malgus > Bane

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Neph don't waste time with this *******. It's Intrepid.

Intrepid were you one of the original Bane trolls?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Why the Fugg r u assuming this is sabers only [/B]

Originally posted by Syndicate
Why are we assuming the protagonist beats Arcann in lightsaber combat or without circumstances?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Intrepid were you one of the original Bane trolls?

Originally posted by nedemette
i started the bane movement but got banned early in it, carthage carried it out for me along with other kids like stigma

You have my respect, Godfather.