Thing vs Thor

meh, i dunno. being a god who is thousands of years old doesn't really mean too much. i'm sure thor IS a good melee fighter, but it really is very rarely demonstrated. afaik we haven't even ever really seen him training as a warrior growing up. if he did, it was....thousands of years ago. he's immortal, one of the strongest beings on the universe paired with one of the most powerful weapons in the universe. WHY does he need to work on his melee skills? sure he'd pick stuff up, but it doesn't necessarily follow that he would automatically be better than ben, who is NOT as strong, is NOT invulnerable and HAS no weapon to fall back on.

the best skill feat from either imo is the thing vs champion feat. champ was BILLIONS of years old, dedicated to PURELY melee combat and ben was able to actually fight him h2h and hurt him. repeatedly. that says quite a bit to me.

we know herc was a famous wrestler--hell he may have invented the sport, but he's certainly not daredevil and if strength and durability were equalized matt would f*** up herc's shit in a hurry, like he would thor's.

neither age nor status (as god of war) =/= skill

i think it's certainly a debatable topic at the least and with all things being equal, if they had to battle h2h i'd take ben more often than not. /shrug

^We didn't see him train because by the time he was a kid he could already beat all of Asgard.

Seems unlikely that the finest warrior out of a race dedicated to fighting every day would not be better than a regular guy who's good at fighting.

Hyperbole and opinion will let you jump REALLY far to land on a conclusion, wow. 😂

Originally posted by leonidas
meh, i dunno. being a god who is thousands of years old doesn't really mean too much. i'm sure thor IS a good melee fighter, but it really is very rarely demonstrated. afaik we haven't even ever really seen him training as a warrior growing up. if he did, it was....thousands of years ago. he's immortal, one of the strongest beings on the universe paired with one of the most powerful weapons in the universe. WHY does he need to work on his melee skills? sure he'd pick stuff up, but it doesn't necessarily follow that he would automatically be better than ben, who is NOT as strong, is NOT invulnerable and HAS no weapon to fall back on.

the best skill feat from either imo is the thing vs champion feat. champ was BILLIONS of years old, dedicated to PURELY melee combat and ben was able to actually fight him h2h and hurt him. repeatedly. that says quite a bit to me.

we know herc was a famous wrestler--hell he may have invented the sport, but he's certainly not daredevil and if strength and durability were equalized matt would f*** up herc's shit in a hurry, like he would thor's.

neither age nor status (as god of war) =/= skill

i think it's certainly a debatable topic at the least and with all things being equal, if they had to battle h2h i'd take ben more often than not. /shrug

Thor, Balder, and Sif were generally regarded as the best fighters of their race even at an early age. It's been stated or described that way on more than one occasion. I doubt Ben was never described that way for his.

Thor suffers from being an extremely powerful hero so his skill is downplayed more often than not especially against beings below his level.

But when his skill is talked up, many times it's described as if he's one of your run of the mill uber comic book martial artists. I can't speak for Thing, but I really can't recall many statements or displays of tremendous skill for Ben. Then again I'm not one to read much FF. That for sure I know Thor has under his belt.

Unfortunately due to his power level, as I've mentioned before they will dumb it down more often than not. Batkick to Wondy and Superman level characters anyone?

Overall picture Thor is above Thing. Feel free to change my mind. Open for anything.

Originally posted by leonidas
meh, i dunno. being a god who is thousands of years old doesn't really mean too much. i'm sure thor IS a good melee fighter, but it really is very rarely demonstrated. afaik we haven't even ever really seen him training as a warrior growing up. if he did, it was....thousands of years ago. he's immortal, one of the strongest beings on the universe paired with one of the most powerful weapons in the universe. WHY does he need to work on his melee skills? sure he'd pick stuff up, but it doesn't necessarily follow that he would automatically be better than ben, who is NOT as strong, is NOT invulnerable and HAS no weapon to fall back on.

the best skill feat from either imo is the thing vs champion feat. champ was BILLIONS of years old, dedicated to PURELY melee combat and ben was able to actually fight him h2h and hurt him. repeatedly. that says quite a bit to me.

we know herc was a famous wrestler--hell he may have invented the sport, but he's certainly not daredevil and if strength and durability were equalized matt would f*** up herc's shit in a hurry, like he would thor's.

neither age nor status (as god of war) =/= skill

i think it's certainly a debatable topic at the least and with all things being equal, if they had to battle h2h i'd take ben more often than not. /shrug

Yeah, i'm going with this. When Ben fought the Champion, they were purely boxing. Thats just one aspect of H2H. Marvel has dumbed down the Champion so much that its not even funny. We have a character thats an Elder Of The Universe and his main goal is to learn all fighting skills and even after a million years of doing so, he jobs like the Rhino. This guy should be DC's version of Karate Kid, but they have him losing to She-Hulk for cripes sake. Anyways, Ben would probably win. He has never been dependent on any weapon.

Thing has heart no matter who he is fighting period, even though the champion got his ribs broken he still beat the ever living 💩 out of the thing, too the point he forfeited the match. Thor defeated man beast who supposedly master countless fighting styles and got worked by a being who has more fighting experience.

E have to remember the Thor is a God and one of the most powerful heroes in marvel universe, they pis fighting ability to a point where the other stands a chance and they shouldn't for the sake of the story, same thing superman beating Darkseid and we all know damn well Darkseid is far above superman pay grade but it happens for the sake of the story, especially we have hero on hero it won't be the same since Thor holds back tramindusly

Thor defeated man beast who supposedly master countless fighting styles and got worked by a being who has more fighting experience.

thor took on herc h2h though

Yeah, many times, to include the infamous purple nurple fight! 👆