No, it's a Nihilus levitated a 1,200 meter long ship and possibly several others out of a gravity well before he went on to eat several planets, nearly a hundred Jedi and a planetary population of force sensitives and Sadow isn't remotely on his level fallacy. 🙂
Interested to see how you justify Surik = Nihilus tho. 👆
Originally posted by Nephthys
No, it's a Nihilus levitated a 1,200 meter long ship and possibly several others out of a gravity well [b]before he went on to eat several planets, nearly a hundred Jedi and a planetary population of force sensitives[/b]
With a powerful nexus and a potential connection to the ship, that is. That said, it's still an immense feat, but given that even Rivi-Anu could slow the descent of capital ships on her lonesome, surely you could imagine Sadow replicating such a feat with the benefit of those circumstances?
Regarding how he devoured the Force energies of all that crap - it sounds more like a temporary sustenance thing than a permanent boost in power.
and Sadow isn't remotely on his level fallacy. 🙂
Kreia and Avellone disagree.
Interested to see how you justify Surik = Nihilus tho. 👆
Why would I do that? I'm well aware that Nihilus is well out of her league as a Force wielder. At least in terms of raw power.
Originally posted by SunRazer
With a powerful nexus and a potential connection to the ship, that is. That said, it's still an immense feat, but given that even Rivi-Anu could slow the descent of capital ships on her lonesome, surely you could imagine Sadow replicating such a feat with the benefit of those circumstances?Regarding how he devoured the Force energies of all that crap - it sounds more like a temporary sustenance thing than a permanent boost in power.
The nexus is counteracted by the gravity well and by him increasing in power afterwards. Also there's no proof the nexus would extend all the way into space, that Nihilus even used it or would be capable of using it in his condition. And even if we say Nihilus was more powerful at that point then he ever would be, which is retarded, it would still me magnitudes greater than what Sadow could accomplish. And TOP KEKEKEKEK at actually trying to use Rivi-Anu in a serious discussion as a serious point. Literally cancer. 🙂
Uh, no??? He gets more powerful as he drains shit, that's how he got so powerful in the first place. It's the same as the Exile growing more powerful as she drains people she kills.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Kreia and Avellone disagree.
Kreia and Avellone said a lot of things that have proven to be inaccurate.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Why would I do that? I'm well aware that Nihilus is well out of her league as a Force wielder. At least in terms of raw power.
But you just said:
"Sadow. I don't believe Nihilus outclasses Surik by that extent - in fact, not at all. "
Originally posted by Nephthys
The nexus is counteracted by the gravity well and by him increasing in power afterwards. Also there's no proof the nexus would extend all the way into space, that Nihilus even used it or would be capable of using it in his condition.
I don't think the gravity well is that powerful. After all, ships managed to leave Malachor V just fine.
Nihilus gets amped by the Ravager per the Prima Guide, so suggesting that he doesn't get amped by Malachor V is kekworthy. Also, the idea that he has a choice is also laughable. Nihilus is literally enslaved to power - he doesn't get to choose or reject power.
And TOP KEKEKEKEK at actually trying to use Rivi-Anu in a serious discussion as a serious point. Literally cancer. 🙂
Well, maybe Nihilus can Drain the cells and keep you alive 🙂
Though given the last two arguments of your above point, I don't think you're in much of a position to be calling anything cancer, buddy boy.
Uh, no??? He gets more powerful as he drains shit, that's how he got so powerful in the first place. It's the same as the Exile growing more powerful as she drains people she kills.
That's her restoring her connection to the Force until its completely restored 👆
The peak of Nihilus' abilities would be him Draining Katarr according to you folks. So yeah, nothing indicates that he grew more powerful since, so I'm not sure what you mean by "how he got so powerful in the first place". He literally achieved all of his best feats without any growth in power.
Kreia and Avellone said a lot of things that have proven to be inaccurate.
Avellone made Nihilus with the intention of him being lesser than the Ancient Sith, though. And he claims that what Kreia says about the Ancient Sith is correct.
But you just said:"Sadow. I don't believe Nihilus outclasses Surik by that extent - in fact, not at all. "
You dolt. I was responding to this, literally the post right above mine:
Hmm. Who takes sabers?
😂
Besides, not outclassing somebody doesn't make you equal to someone. It means you're in their class. 🙂🙂🙂
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Yeah, that, and Traya's quote about Nihilus being below the ancients in power.Given that her other statement regarding the ancients >>> her and co. in sabers, was confirmed to be true, I see no reason why that one wouldn't be true either, honestly.
Also according to Traya, Nihilus's force drain is a force attack specifically noted to have no counter or defense for
If you want quotes Kreia’s on Nihilus:
"One cannot have power of that magnitude and still think and perceive the universe as we do."
This is actually a large interest of mine. They place an emphasis somewhat on how Nihilus sees things. It’s different from normal people as clearly stated by Traya and then further explained by Tobin. Ote this exchange.
Visas: I do not believe he knows his ship has been boarded. And if he did, he would not care. The extent of his power can not be put into words. And his perceptions have grown as well. To him...
Tobin: You are dust motes in a storm. A grain upon the beach and as insignificant as a body that orbits the graveyard of Malachor.
Canderous: If he’s so powerful, why hasn’t he stopped us, then?
Tobin: It is because he sees planets, stars...not people. To him, the planet below, the station with its teeming life, only that is massive enough to demand his attention.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
^ I mean the gravity well of a planet matters enough to make lifting things harder, lol.
This shouldn't be a factor at all for a powerful Force User drawing on a powerful nexus. The quotes...
No, no different. Only different in your mind.
and
The ability to destroy a planet, is insignificant next to the power of The Force.
and
Size matters not.
Literally...a gravity well should be of 0 issue to someone like Nihilus on one of the most powerful dark side nexus'.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
You aren't taking those quotes literally, are you? Like otherwise Yoda's would've just crushed the Death Star with his mind, lol.
Of course not literally. 🙄
What I'm saying is, given who Nihilus is and factoring in the nexus he was on. Some gravity well shouldn't be a big factor.
What are you talking about? Gravity wells don't hit diminishing returns when it comes to the force needed to lift something; if the well is twice as strong, it takes the same amount of force to lift something half as large as otherwise. So if this well really were so powerful it could prevent ships from lifting, then raising the Ravager out of it would suggest telekinesis more powerful than the Ravager's engines, which would be truly legendary.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
What are you talking about? Gravity wells don't hit diminishing returns when it comes to the force needed to lift something; if the well is twice as strong, it takes the same amount of force to lift something half as large as otherwise. So if this well really were so powerful it could prevent ships from lifting, then raising the Ravager out of it would suggest telekinesis more powerful than the Ravager's engines, which would be truly legendary.
Which is fine, but I'm usually seeing this feat and the mention of a gravity well, as if it takes some effort on Nihilus' part...which it shouldn't. But maybe I'm just viewing it differently when people mention it.