Karness Muur Runs the Gauntlet

Karness Muur when alive and in his prime. Morales off. Standard equipment. Win via death or incapacitation. Full restoration after every round.

1. Thrawn Trilogy Luke.
2. Gethzerion.
3. Galen Marek.
4. Vjun Dooku.
5. Tenebrous.
6. RotJ Vader.
7. Reborn Krayt.
8. Revan.
9. DE Luke.
10. Caedus.
11. Exar Kun.
12. Plagueis.
12. Nihilus.
13. Talzin.
14. Vitiate.
14. RotJ Sidious.

2.

Order is absolute cancer.

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Gets destroyed at 1.

Where does this take place? Off Dathomir, Muur should take Gethzerion, whilst Thrawn Trilogy Luke might lose to Muur by virtue of the latter's Force attacks and Sorcery.

This list is a mix-up, to put him somewhere he'd have to defeat more powerful characters to get to that person.

Loses to Geth.

Off Dathomir, I can't see that happening. On Dathomir, probably, yeah.

@Skillz - Vader's canonically more powerful than Geth by ESB/SotE, so you must have RotJ Vader over Muur 🙂

Originally posted by SunRazer
@Skillz - Vader's canonically more powerful than Geth by ESB/SotE

I'm so gonna use that fact more in my arguments for Vader. 🙂

Well, assuming Geth at that time is as powerful as she is years later in TCoPL, of course. But we can't know for sure either way.

When did Palpatine start blockading Dathomir?

How many years after RotJ, did CoPL take place?
Because I doubt someone of her age would suddenly get a large boon in power in a few years just 'cause, tbh. I mean it's totally possible, but I see no reason to assume such.

Also, I haves no clue.

Four, I think.

And I'm asking because if Sidious began blockading after RotJ, then it means that he never found it necessary to blockade Dathomir during the OT. That means he probably wasn't afraid of Geth's power then, which would mean that she improved since Vader's accolade.

...wait, how could Sidious block anything after RotJ, if he presumingly died during those events? 😬

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
...wait, how could Sidious block anything after RotJ if he was presumingly died during those events? 😬

He came back afterwards and regained his physical form by TCoPL, lol. It could've been anything from between RotJ and TCoPL, and Sidious still had some loyalists. Wasn't the blockade of Dathomir a secret operation?

Originally posted by SunRazer

@Skillz - Vader's canonically more powerful than Geth by ESB/SotE, so you must have RotJ Vader over Muur 🙂

You never fail to disappoint Sunrazer.

Let's what cancerous 'power-scale' argument you've cooked up for Darth Vader > Geth.

Well, according to the wiki, Palpatine blockaded Dathomir while he was "alive", but posted no source so....yeah, should be taken with a grai. of salt. *shrugs*

I'll scan through the book myself to confirm, but I don't see Sidious putting a blockade on the planet when he's a reborn clone, KEK.

Originally posted by SunRazer
He came back afterwards and regained his physical form by TCoPL, lol. It could've been anything from between RotJ and TCoPL, and Sidious still had some loyalists. Wasn't the blockade of Dathomir a secret operation?

Not really, Sidious sensed her powers before Rotj.

But the Emperor, who sensed Gethzerion's power through the Force, realized that once Gethzerion mastered the controls of a shuttle, she could reach the orbiting docking facility, and from there spread her influence to the rest of the galaxy, one day perhaps even challenging him.

The Emperor ordered the orbital docks destroyed, abandoning the lmperial forces of the penal colony to Gethzerion and the Nightsisters. Ships were assigned to periodically the planet and make orbital scans to ensure that the Nightsisters were still confined to Dathomir, but we given strict orders never to land. This state of affairs continued for many years, until the death of the Emperor. Imperial Commander Zsinj, now a power-hungry warlord, returned to Dathomir pursuing the smuggler turned war hero Han Solo, who had kidnapped Leia Organa to prevent her from marrying the Hapan ambassador Prince Isolder.

Taken from The Dark Side Sourcebook

And unless you want to argue this is referring to Palpatine's DE death, he trapped Gethzerion years before Rotj, which should also be obvious from the fact that the quote mentions a commander who returned to Dathomir in COPL. Palpatine's death however is mentioned before that event.

Which means pre prime Vader is above Gethzerion as well. 👆

Originally posted by Nargaroth
Not really, Sidious sensed her powers before Rotj.

But the Emperor, who sensed Gethzerion's power through the Force, realized that once Gethzerion mastered the controls of a shuttle, she could reach the orbiting docking facility, and from there spread her influence to the rest of the galaxy, one day perhaps even challenging him.

The Emperor ordered the orbital docks destroyed, abandoning the lmperial forces of the penal colony to Gethzerion and the Nightsisters. Ships were assigned to periodically the planet and make orbital scans to ensure that the Nightsisters were still confined to Dathomir, but we given strict orders never to land. This state of affairs continued for many years, until the death of the Emperor. Imperial Commander Zsinj, now a power-hungry warlord, returned to Dathomir pursuing the smuggler turned war hero Han Solo, who had kidnapped Leia Organa to prevent her from marrying the Hapan ambassador Prince Isolder.

Taken from The Dark Side Sourcebook

And unless you want to argue this is referring to Palpatine's DE death, he trapped Gethzerion years before Rotj, which should also be obvious from the fact that the quote mentions a commander who returned to Dathomir in COPL. Palpatine's death however is mentioned before that event.

Which means pre prime Vader is above Gethzerion as well. 👆

There is literally nothing in that passage confirming Vader > Geth, or any relative power-chart that can be rationalized from with in it.
Once again, it's just a circle-jerk from cancerous fanboys. Not a surprise.

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The Thrawn Trilogy is only a year before Dark Empire; Luke should be solidly above Vader already.