SOR Revan vs Darth Tenebrous

Shitty arbitrary conjecture per usual.

Tenebrous threads are cancer, as well as his supporters.

Just dismissing arguments by vaguely calling them "subjective" isn't an argument. Not to mention that low balling Tenebrous is just as unsupported an assertion if you're just going to assert it on face.

No, I'm dismissing them because they're shitty LMAO.

Tenebrous is far above Bane; so what? Revan is as well, it proves absolutely nothing in the end.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Shitty arbitrary conjecture per usual.

Tenebrous threads are cancer, as well as his supporters.

Nah. Tenebrous haters always have no argument and just claim that he sucks. His feats are damn impressive, lol.

Tenebrous sucks

Originally posted by SunRazer
Revan stomps Tenebrous but his successor Plagueis defeats Revan?

Even if the gap between Plagueis and Tenebrous were as large as between Sidious and Plagueis (which it isn't), that still wouldn't remotely be the case.

On the other hand Revan is described as no match for Vitiate.

By who? Marr?

The Wrath perhaps, I can't remember.

At the Rishi conference, I recall the Wrath / Hero stating that they should let Revan do what he plans to do, but then Marr states that even Revan cannot defeat Vitiate. Wrath / Hero adopts Marr's stance for the rest of the game and later tells Revan that personally. Marr's understanding of Revan or Vitiate seems to purely be based on the legends of the two. For one, he seems convinced Vitiate is a galaxy-buster without exception. And two, he's never seen peak Revan - or him at all.

SoR Revan should be very close to novel Vitiate, so I can't see how Plagueis/Tenebrous takes some definitive edge.

Well its true Marr is far from a reliable source, but then he did get shat on in the Revan novel. 😬

I disagree. Revan handled all of Vitiate's lightning to the point where he physically "tanked" (in the sense he didn't die) the rest (and with additional Jedi healing, was up on his feet in a minute). In SoR, where his body is fueled by his willpower, I can see Revan completely overcoming Vitiate's assault and pressing the charge further.

Hardly.

He beat his telepathic assault with... balance in the Force(?) or whatever stupid power that was. He deflected Vitiate's lightning bolts with his lightsaber and reflected one right back at him. Then he absorbed the majority of Vitiate's lightning and survived the excess, healing himself from all that damage and was ready for another exchange.

He was certainly losing, but he did not get 'shit on'.

Ready for another exchange? He would have died if not for Meetra and couldn't even contain the full storm.

EDIT: Also Vitiate has got stronger too, presumably.

After Vitiate was distracted by T3's flamethrower and Meetra's saber throw, Revan healed himself and was ready for another fight.

But he would have died. Point is all we should expect from SOR Revan is to last a bit longer, then also die.

This is of course without factoring in Vitiate fighting intelligently, if he had just conjured a storm in the first place much like he did against the TOR B-team, Revan might never have even gotten in range.

Double post.

'A bit longer'? He's gone through three centuries of knowledge and mental hardening against Vitiate himself, which would afford him a far better basis upon which to fight from. Combine that with two bonified power curves and the gap would be far, far smaller.

Revan the resurrected >>> novel Revan.

And also went mad and lost half his being, yeah.

His powers intensified after his death, he went from losing to four Imp protags to handling two far stronger strike teams back-to-back whilst controlling his ritual. Dark Revan became the anti-Vitiate, utterly obsessed with defeating the Emperor. He's going to be far more dangerous than in the novel.