Originally posted by MythLord
Jedi Academy only says if Kyp and Exar Kun work together they might become the worst enemy the New Republic has faced. Given how Kyp's potential ~ Leia's and Luke's, and adding Kun plus the Sun Crusher to that would certainly be ahead of just Palpatine alone.So far, I fail to see why novella blurbs shouldn't be considered canon. Or why an anecdotal fallacy would immediately cancel out every other blurb outright.
Exar Kun being the vast majority of power here, using Kyp as a temporary yet inadequate dpurce of energy, in place of his own. Furthermore the Sun Crusher is one of the aforementioned problems that Kun and Kyp are an even greater danger than. Even if it was included as an asset, by inference we must include Reborn Palpatine's vast armada.
Originally posted by NephthysDrew confirmed that he and he alone wasn't consulted lol, everything else you've said is conjecture. But of course you're well aware of that, and simply repeat otherwise in the hope it might become truth, not working darling.
Pretty sure they've confirmed nothing. The authors send the book to Del Rey and then they write the blurb up and publish it without any input from Lucasarts. A SW writer has confirmed this and stated that any blurb should essentially be ignored as it has no connection to anyone writing for SW itself.
Fact is it has the LucasBooks seal of approval, and that anything published by a Lucas company = canon, end of discussion.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Drew confirmed that he and he alone wasn't consulted lol, everything else you've said is conjecture. But of course you're well aware of that, and simply repeat otherwise in the hope it might become truth, not working darling.Fact is it has the LucasBooks seal of approval, and that anything published by a Lucas company = canon, end of discussion.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
That is an epic brainfart.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
👆It is open to scrutiny, from a Canon (with a capital C) perspective, in the same way that the very existence of Valkorion is open to scrutiny. However from a Legends perspective it is just as binding as any other secondary source.
If Darth Plaguies was demontratively that powerful and accomplished as his marketing statements imply, I would not have questioned it (yes, I am not blind and biased to this extent). Unfortunately, the novel tells a different story.
Darth Plagueis is one of my favorite characters. I expected him to be above Palpatine. However....James Luceno ruined it.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDHe has more showing and accomplishments, that doesn't prove he's superior in the slightest.
The accuracy of Legends content is debatable in some cases and this is one of them. Vitiate absolutely shits over Darth Plagueis in showings and accomplishments. Why should I ignore such treasure-trove of evidence and treat an (unsubstantiated) blurb as absolute truth?
If Darth Plaguies was demontratively that powerful and accomplished as his marketing statements imply, I would not have questioned it (yes, I am not blind and biased to this extent). Unfortunately, the novel tells a different story.The novel depicts Darth Plagueis asserting that through strength of will he can accomplish anything, attainting unprecedented power over the building blocks of the Force, and upsetting the cosmological balance to such an extent to trigger the creation of the Chosen One.
How does the novel tell a different story?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDWhy because he didn't shower it with ham-fisted uber feats like the kind you get in TOR?
Darth Plagueis is one of my favorite characters. I expected him to be above Palpatine. However....James Luceno ruined it.
I'd rather have it not read like a Micheal Bay movie sry.
👆 Beni sums it up pretty well.
TOR is a media designed to just give people wankable characters pulling OP feat after OP feat out of their arses. Meanwhile, well-written stories focus much more on character depth so the "Oh mah gawd, so powahful!" side of things takes a backseat and isn't as explored.
Plagy's feats and hype with regards to raw power is certainly up to stack with Valkorion's, it's just his accomplishments aren't as flashy.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
He has more showing and accomplishments, that doesn't prove he's superior in the slightest.
Vitiate has vastly superior showings in Nathema, dispatching a Dark Council, defeating Revan, devastating Ziost, corrupting Dromund Kaas and immortality, to name a few.
Even neutral observors do not perceive Darth Plagueis as powerful as his marketing statements suggest: http://www.looper.com/23042/powerful-sith-star-wars-universe/
Shame 👇
Originally posted by Beniboybling
The novel depicts Darth Plagueis asserting that through strength of will he can accomplish anything, attainting unprecedented power over the building blocks of the Force, and upsetting the cosmological balance to such an extent to trigger the creation of the Chosen One.How does the novel tell a different story?
Do you understand the difference between perception and actual accomplishments? I suppose not.
Yes, Darth Plagueis learned the ability to influence Midichlorians but who is to say that Vitiate didn't through his own devices? Vitiate not just achieved corporal immortality but cheated death time-and-again. Darth Plagueis failed to cheat death even once. Can't you ****ing see it?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Why because he didn't shower it with ham-fisted uber feats like the kind you get in TOR?I'd rather have it not read like a Micheal Bay movie sry.
Darth Plagueis could be assigned talents that would have legitimately frightened Palpatine. And it would have been much better if Palpatine had had him assassinated in a convincing manner! But nope. That would have been an insult to his gary-stu status. How dare they. 🙄
Originally posted by MythLord
👆 Beni sums it up pretty well.TOR is a media designed to just give people wankable characters pulling OP feat after OP feat out of their arses. Meanwhile, well-written stories focus much more on character depth so the "Oh mah gawd, so powahful!" side of things takes a backseat and isn't as explored.
Originally posted by MythLord
Plagy's feats and hype with regards to raw power is certainly up to stack with Valkorion's, it's just his accomplishments aren't as flashy.