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Ya know it occurs to me....what dueling feats does Ti really have? She's noted as one of the most skilled in the Order. But she has all of...3 dueling feats? 1 of which where she was overwhelmed by Grevious, the other against a warlord and the last against Galen Marek.
Discounting the Grevious one, as she didn't really much fight him. That just leaves all of 2 and one against a Non-Force Sensitive at that.
I don't mean to knock Ti down because there's other duelists who are labeled as one of the greats, yet not having any feats. It's just something I noticed and I find that kinda bizarre.
Quality kinda matters, there. I mean, even look at Sidious's track record in duels:
Defeats Maul/Opress
Stalemates/barely defeats Talzin
Loses to Mace Windu
Stalemates/barely defeats Yoda
Defeats/Kills Galen Marek
Defeats Luke
Gets raped by Luke
Which is a highly impressive but not unblemished track record by any means in terms of combats won/lost.
Meanwhile, Vader has an incredible track record in terms of combats won/lost, but I wouldn't use that as an indicator that Vader is a superior combatant, given the quality of opponents he's beaten is infinitely inferior to the quality of opponents Sidious has faced, win or lose.
If you're not counting Grevious, her one definitive L is against Galen Marek, I.e. An absolutely immense force prodigy and near-perfect lightsaber duelist who'd floor Ventress by feats.
I don't have a dog in this one, Just my 2 cents.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Quality kinda matters, there. I mean, even look at Sidious's track record in duels:Defeats Maul/Opress
Stalemates/barely defeats Talzin
Loses to Mace Windu
Stalemates/barely defeats Yoda
Defeats/Kills Galen Marek
Defeats Luke
Gets raped by LukeWhich is a highly impressive but not unblemished track record by any means in terms of combats won/lost.
Meanwhile, Vader has an incredible track record in terms of combats won/lost, but I wouldn't use that as an indicator that Vader is a superior combatant, given the quality of opponents he's beaten is infinitely inferior to the quality of opponents Sidious has faced, win or lose.
If you're not counting Grevious, her one definitive L is against Galen Marek, I.e. An absolutely immense force prodigy and near-perfect lightsaber duelist who'd floor Ventress by feats.
I don't have a dog in this one, Just my 2 cents.
LOL. Galen is not a near perfect duelist. But the other points are noteworthy
"For me, Malak was always the 'brawn' to Revan's 'brain' - he was renowned for his combat abilities, and I always felt that he was even better than Revan with a lightsaber. I also felt that he wasn't as strong at using the Force in other ways as Revan was."
―Drew Karpyshyn (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan Author)
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Dooku is more technically skilled then Anakin but that didn't keep him from ultimately being beaten by him.
Plenty of opponents can be more technically skilled but lose in a lightsaber duel due to being outclassed physically, in the Force ( superior augmentation, precog, etc. ) or because they have a form disadvantage.