Well Ventress has beaten Fisto before and IMO Fisto > Ti so Ventress probably wins. Fisto is more skilled than the two but Ventress and Ti being masters/proficient in Makashi, have a significant advantage over Shii-Cho's wild movesets.
Arguments can be made in favour of Fisto: Ventress had prior knowledge of his style, Fisto may have overcome Shii-Cho's 1v1 weakness against Obi-Wan and Grievous. So Fisto or Ventress IMO
Originally posted by chingchangwallaUh... Koon also beat Ventress on his own, while having a broken arm.
Well Ventress has beaten Fisto before and IMO Fisto > Ti so Ventress probably wins. Fisto is more skilled than the two but Ventress and Ti being masters/proficient in Makashi, have a significant advantage over Shii-Cho's wild movesets.
Arguments can be made in favour of Fisto: Ventress had prior knowledge of his style, Fisto may have overcome Shii-Cho's 1v1 weakness against Obi-Wan and Grievous. So Fisto or Ventress IMO
Fisto was embarrassing Grievous, while Ventress just managed to beat him.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Fisto was embarrassing Grievous, while Ventress just managed to beat him.
How did he embarrass Grievous more than Ventress?
Btw Grievous gets better as the war progressed under his training with Count Dooku. And his fight with Fisto was S1, his fight with Ventress was S4.
But tbf he also fought Ventress on a DS Nexus.
Fisto had a significant form advantage against Grievous, Ventress and Ti both lacked that. Ti's also only faced him while exhausted and while knowing minimal amounts about him, years before prime, so hardly the best measuring stick. Not that Jmanghan's arguments are ever actually [I]good[/], lmao.
Ti takes this, btw.
Originally posted by SelenialUh, she wasn't tired when the fight first started, when she fought him on Coruscant is when she got tired, nice excuse though.
Fisto had a significant form advantage against Grievous, Ventress and Ti both lacked that. Ti's also only faced him while exhausted and while knowing minimal amounts about him, years before prime, so hardly the best measuring stick. Not that Jmanghan's arguments are ever actually [I]good[/], lmao.Ti takes this, btw.
Not even mentioning she had help from Mundi who lasted longer then her in the initial fight after the Padawan's were killed. Depends on how big of a time gap you believe is in TCW.
I don't see it as that big, Ahsoka and Barriss, neither seem to age that much, implying it happened within the span of a year or two.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Uh, she wasn't tired when the fight first started, when she fought him on Coruscant is when she got tired, nice excuse though.Not even mentioning she had help from Mundi who lasted longer then her in the initial fight after the Padawan's were killed. Depends on how big of a time gap you believe is in TCW.
I don't see it as that big, Ahsoka and Barriss, neither seem to age that much, implying it happened within the span of a year or two.
Are you serious? They'd been fighting for days in one of the bloodiest battles in the war, there's a couple different depictions of Ki Adi and Shaak Ti fighting on the front lines trying to turn the tide of the battle.
The fact both of them are so evidently battle-worn shows that as well. So no idea where you're getting the idea they weren't tired during the first fight. And yes, someone who masters Soresu is going to last longer than someone who fights with Ataru. She needs energy far more than he does to perform, that's simply how their styles work.
Given the Battle of Hypori was supposedly Grievous' first appearance, the time gap is rather significant. And her prime is in The Force Unleashed, which is over twenty years after AotC.