Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDLmao do you even remember what the original point was? God you're stupid.
Obi-Wan Kenobi and Ven Zallow are Force-users. They are superhumans; they could protect themselves. Understand?
Do you think that many would not have succumbed to those injuries even in a span of 10 days in a jungle?Who gives a flying ****? We are talking about blunt force trauma, not how well they handle their injuries after the fact. Completely irrelevant, you are utterly retarded.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDShe again, evidently wasn't, hence why she's alive. End of discussion.
Right.You are taking Ellimist's [assumption] at face-value because you don't believe in luck like him. Fact is that neither you and nor he is in the position to validate his [assumption].
None of us know whether that girl was impacted as much as the others (or not) during that accident. And neither should any self-proclaimed smart@ss attempt to offer an explanation without having examined body of each victim of that accident and the crash site itself.
The girl not just survived the trauma but she managed to sustain herself in the jungle for 10 days in spite of her injuries. She had survival skills and they helped her endure the entire ordeal.
I am just saying that not many can be in her shoes and live to tell the tale.
Feel free to again provide an alternate explanation, remembering that witchcraft, divine intervention and even luck (as far as it exists outside of logical probability) do not exist in the SW universe, which I'd remind you (because you are actually stupid enough to need reminding) we are discussing.
And no they can't, because 9/10 she and others would have died.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
There's this thing called Science that has done a better job than any philosophical system ever invented at describing the natural world. You should google it sometime after you acquaint yourself with other basics of the modern world like cars and sanitation. 👆
And don't forget to write a scientific paper in relation to the referred accident to debunk my stance on that issue.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
She again, evidently wasn't, hence why she's alive. End of discussion.Feel free to again provide an alternate explanation, remembering that witchcraft, divine intervention and even luck (as far as it exists outside of logical probability) do not exist in the SW universe, which I'd remind you (because you are actually stupid enough to need reminding) we are discussing.
And no they can't, because 9/10 she and others would have died.
I have another example to share. Malala Yousafzai was shot in the head and survived it. Of-course, medical assistance was necessary to save her.
But how many would have survived in her shoes? Any scientific explanation?
Yes actually, in fact you'll find science has a lot of explanations for a lot of things:
http://www.livescience.com/9234-survive-bullet-brain.html
http://www.medicinenet.com/surviving_a_gunshot_wound_to_the_head/views.htm
Originally posted by Beniboybling
God you're stupid.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yes actually, in fact you'll find science has a lot of explanations for a lot of things:http://www.livescience.com/9234-survive-bullet-brain.html
http://www.medicinenet.com/surviving_a_gunshot_wound_to_the_head/views.htm
I thought you have common sense but it is clearly lacking. Once again, I am not interested in scientific explanations of how an individual can survive a particular trauma.
My point is that can YOU live to tell the tale after experiencing a similar life-threatening ordeal? Perhaps you can. Perhaps not. This is the gist of my argument.
I might chop-off your arm and you may (or may not) perish due to resultant blood-loss. Only one way to find out.
Additional food for thought: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/human-survival-11-incredible-stories-1560491
Gosh this is painful, you asked for a scientific explanation and I gave you one, in which it was explained to be a matter of probability.
Sometimes the odds align in your favour and you get "lucky".
This was again, not the case for Kenobi. Now I'm going to quote the scene for you, try to pay attention.
While Kenobi's bonelessly limp body was still tumbling toward the floor far below, Dooku sent a surge of energy through the Force. Kenobi's fall suddenly accelerated like a missile burning the last of its drives before impact. The Jedi Master struck the floor at a steep angle, skidded along it, and slammed into the wall so hard the hydrofoamed permacrete buckled and collapsed onto him.There is again, no room to argue that he escaped significant trauma, at no point does "luck" save him from hitting the floor or slamming into the wall. Nor is his unscathed survival attributed to chance or a miracle, but his endurance capabilities. Your point is therefore moot.This Dooku found exceedingly gratifying.
[...]
He sprang to his feet and waved away the debris that had buried the body of his friend. Obi-Wan lay entirely still, eyes closed, dust-caked blood matting his hair where his scalp had split.
Bad as Obi-Wan looked, Anakin had stood over the bodies of too many friends on too many battlefields to be panicked by a little blood. One touch to Obi-Wan's throat confirmed the strength of his pulse, and that touch also let Anakin's Force perception flow through the whole body of his friend. His breathing was strong and regular, and no bones were broken: this was a concussion, no more.
Apparently Obi-Wan's head was somewhat harder than the cruiser's interior walls.
And that's my last post on the matter, I'm only willing to humour your stupidity for so long.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lmao do you even remember what the original point was? God you're stupid.
Someone else was typing in my place. 🙄
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Who gives a flying ****? We are talking about blunt force trauma, not how well they handle their injuries after the fact. Completely irrelevant, you are utterly retarded.
Force-based defenses can be used to mitigate the effects of a blunt-force trauma. Obi-Wan Kenobi and Ven Zallow were Force-users and (most likely) used the Force to mitigate the effects of blunt trauma that each experienced.
Darth Malgus's blow caught Aryn Leener off-guard but she still managed to mitigate the effects of the blunt trauma [that she experienced] through her Force-based defenses and remained battle-ready in spite of the ordeal.
None of the aforementioned examples prove which Force-user was more powerful and/or more durable. Therefore, SunRazer's argument is weak.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Gosh this is painful, you asked for a scientific explanation and I gave you one, in which it was explained to be a matter of probability.Sometimes the odds align in your favour and you get "lucky".
This was again, not the case for Kenobi. Now I'm going to quote the scene for you, try to pay attention.
There is again, no room to argue that he escaped significant trauma, at no point does "luck" save him from hitting the floor or slamming into the wall. Nor is his unscathed survival attributed to chance or a miracle, but his endurance capabilities. Your point is therefore moot.
And that's my last post on the matter, I'm only willing to humour your stupidity for so long.
Physiology, survival skills and other factors make no difference in life-threatening situations?
Let us consider an analogy:
Person A is bulky and strong and Person B is thin and weak. Both are struck by a hammer in the head at the same spot. Would both tolerate the blow on equal footing and/or suffer exactly same injuries and/or die at the same time?
Your mocking is cheap, my friend.
Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ven Zallow and Aryn Leener may or may not be in the same TIER in the aspect of endurance and/or Force-based defenses. One thing is clear that they could use the Force to mitigate the effects of a blunt-force trauma. And they did.
Now take a good look at the argument of SunRazer:
"That's because she ended up cartwheeling into a rock. Compare that to Obi-Wan being accelerated into the Invisible Hand's wall with such force that the hydrofoam permacrete fell onto him, and even then he emerged unscathed except for a bump on his head. As you can imagine, Obi-Wan's Force-augmented durability is vastly beyond Aryn Leneer's, and Anakin came close to breaking his arms when considerably hindered. Now imagine Anakin at full strength. Beyond Malgus's strength? I think so."
This argument is weak. My response is right above.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZImplying having a problem with LeG is irrational. 🙂
Beni, you have an irrational problem with LeG, and it's getting on my nerves. 🙂
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDLuck tbh. These things happen.
Right.Darth Malgus just tanked missiles and mountain-shattering forces. 🙂
I'll sum up this thread for those who didn't follow it from the beggining:
Dooku vs Malgus
Anakin vs Malgus
Luck vs Science
God vs Science
"You are retarded if you agree with my point of view"
Other random insults and death threats
On Topic:
Sabers Dooku
Force Malgus
All out Either way, but I'm leaning towards Dooku for a slim majority
You guys should learn to respect other people's opinion without insulting them, though