Hulk vs Thor

Originally posted by beatboks
No it doesn't. CANON points to the fact that they re even in all showings. There are JUST as many instances.

1. Journey into mystery 112 Hulk fights Thor who has had the enchantments of Mjilnor removed (he asked Odin to do so to face Hulk purely H2H) and all we got was a cavern collapse separating them for a while.

2. Avengers 3, Hulk and Namor DOUBLE team Thor and together can only match him. Hulk even comments that Namor is "a fool if he thinks he can take on Thor solo".

3.Submariner 35 another battle between the 2 with no out come. Hulk almost manages to separate Mjinor form Thor long enough to turn him back into Donald Drake but doesn't.

4. Defenders 10, they each grapple each other with neither able to even move the other for 90 minutes.

5.Hulk 255, 285 ,300 and 440 four fights in Hulk's own book where he doesn't manage to beat Thor.

6.Thor 385, 489 are two Thor titles that have no clear winner.

7. Fact Hulk's 2001 Annual is the first title in print where we see a clear win in a fight between these two. Ironically wee see a clear win for each of them. Thor takes the battle to another dimension where Hulk crushes him under rubble (seemed as I recall to KO Thor). The battle is rejoined after Thor revives and they go at it again, during which Thor calls down a lightning bolt to strike Hulk from behind and KO him.

8. In Hulk let the battle begin we again see Hulk win ( He grabs Thor's Mjilnor wielding hand and clobbers him with his own enchanted hammer). Thor wins again in fear itself (already mentioned by others).

Yet we hear this repeated garbage that canon has Hulk above Thor. HOW and WHEN. Stadard HUlk ( not World Breaker, or World War) against Standard Thor ( no Odin Force of warrior's madness)

Originally posted by quanchi112
To me this is the best rivalry among peers in marvel or DC. As close as it gets to me. I slightly favor the Hulk but it could go either way.

Superman vs Thor isn't debatable to you?

Originally posted by carver9
Superman vs Thor isn't debatable to you?

Originally posted by carver9
Superman vs Thor isn't debatable to you?

How do you pull this statement out of what he said?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
How do you pull this statement out of what he said?

I know.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
And just for reference, Thor briefly dominated 2 alternate timeline Hulks in Avengers Season One. Gravage and Savage Hulks. Just sayin..

"AVENGERS SEASON ONE?" Is this a comic in the regular MU with a weird title?

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I say that isn't debatable ? Learn what words mean. This is the best rivalry since they have been going toe to toe for decades. Understand now ?

I believe he is asking if Superman vs. Thor could possibly be a bigger rivalry that Thor vs. Hulk, not if Thor vs. Superman is debatable in terms of who wins.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I believe he is asking if Superman vs. Thor could possibly be a bigger rivalry that Thor vs. Hulk, not if Thor vs. Superman is debatable in terms of who wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I get what he's saying but it had nothing to do with my logic. There's decades of interaction rbtween the two characters and the Thor/Superman rivalry has one non canon showing to my knowledge.

I agreed with you 100%, but I'm pretty sure that's what he saying.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Then your whole basis is flawed. You are leaning heavily on their matches that involve no Mjolnir. This fight is full power Thor and not diminished in anyway.

Also Defenders 35 and Hulk 255 were stalemates. It's puzzling to me why you think Hulk came out better.

They also had a short fight in The Savage Hulk one shot. A clear stalemate. Thor was using Mjolnir albeit not really intending to hurt Hulk.

And just for reference, Thor briefly dominated 2 alternate timeline Hulks in Avengers Season One. Gravage and Savage Hulks. Just sayin..

My whole basis is flawed? When I have counted almost every single canon fight and give Thor props in his first two matches? Hulk 300 gives you pretty much a full power Thor who can't deal with Hulk (mindless) and is not even the strongest Hulk.

Defenders 35 is a statlemate don't know what you are arguing this.

Hulk 255 is completely with edge to hulk. If Hulk were not an idiot he could have killed Thor right there. This fight is a complete edge to Hulk.

I actually don't care or count instances that are not canon to 616 like Hulk defeating an alt Thor on the heroes reborn universe.

Now correcte me if I am wrong but aren't you the guy who claims Thor is almost as strong as WBH?

I mean I don't think WBH is all that powerful but Thor is certantly no match in the strength department for a WBH, not a flea compared to him but certantly not a match.

And I stick to my original statement

CANON shows that Hulk has the edge over Thor, fanfiction might be another story but CANON has more value

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I believe he is asking if Superman vs. Thor could possibly be a bigger rivalry that Thor vs. Hulk, not if Thor vs. Superman is debatable in terms of who wins.

Exactly. You're good at reading things buddy.

Originally posted by carver9
Exactly. You're good at reading things buddy.

Yeah man, but if I'm going to be your full time translator, I need to pay me. 😛

Standard brawl: Hulk 10/10 sooner or later.

Everything goes, no BFR: Slight edge to Thor, but he would need to be quite esoteric since Hulk's too much of a force of nature to go down easy.

BFR allowed: Thor 10/10, dimension dump says "Hello."

Originally posted by Magnificent M
Standard brawl: Hulk 10/10 sooner or later.

Everything goes, no BFR: Slight edge to Thor, but he would need to be quite esoteric since Hulk's too much of a force of nature to go down easy.

BFR allowed: Thor 10/10, dimension dump says "Hello."

👆

Bfr on, I would give any Herald the lead against Hulk tbh. He can probably prevent it for some time but it'll eventually happen...especially the Heralds that know of him.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Yeah man, but if I'm going to be your full time translator, I need to pay me. 😛

Lol

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
If We go by canon comics Hulk wins.

If We go by fan fiction Thor wins.

But canon has more weight

Savage 😂

Agreed.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
My whole basis is flawed? When I have counted almost every single canon fight and give Thor props in his first two matches? Hulk 300 gives you pretty much a full power Thor who can't deal with Hulk (mindless) and is not even the strongest Hulk.

Sub Mariner 35 is a statlemate don't know what you are arguing this.

Hulk 255 is completely with edge to hulk. If Hulk were not an idiot he could have killed Thor right there. This fight is a complete edge to Hulk.

I actually don't care or count instances that are not canon to 616 like Hulk defeating an alt Thor on the heroes reborn universe.

Now correcte me if I am wrong but aren't you the guy who claims Thor is almost as strong as WBH?

I mean I don't think WBH is all that powerful but Thor is certantly no match in the strength department for a WBH, not a flea compared to him but certantly not a match.

And I stick to my original statement

CANON shows that Hulk has the edge over Thor, fanfiction might be another story but CANON has more value

Originally posted by Rao Kal El

3.- hulk ends up looking better

5.- hulk 255 come on, hulk ends up looking superior, luckily for thor he ends up reverting into human form Hulk had the edge on this fight.

Here are the actual fights.

Originally posted by ODG

Thor vs Savage Hulk again, from Sub-Mariner #35:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk06Sub-Mariner35.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk07.jpg

Thor vs Savage Hulk for the fourth time, from Incredible Hulk #255:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk13Hulk255.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk14.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk15.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk16.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk17.jpg

Now keep in mind this fight is Thor with all his powers.

Sure I will correct you. What I said was WBH is not far and away stronger than Thor if we focus in on his highest end displays of physical power.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Savage 😂

Agreed.

Truth bro. 👆

And I am no fan of either character is not like bias is clouding my judgement

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Here's what you said about Submariner #35 and Hulk #255.

Here are the actual fights.

Now how in the world can you claim Hulk looked better? Heck in Defenders #35 he was trying to reason with Hulk and ended after the last blow which belonged to Thor.
And in Hulk #255 Thor was barely fighting back and was mostly concerned about innocents. That's why he even turned back to Blake in the first place. He was bracing the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel to prevent the East River from rushing in. Not sure why you even referenced Hulk killing him when there was a lot of context involved.
Your interpretations are just out of whack here.

Now keep in mind this fight is Thor with all his powers.

Sure I will correct you. What I said was WBH is not far and away stronger than Thor if we focus in on his highest end displays of physical power.

Lol Thor was saved by the horn that distracted Hulk, even your scan implies the idea that Thor was saved by this distraction.

Same as the other comic. Your Thor bias is clouding your judgement IMO.

Full power fight yes I am aware of it. Thor wins in FANfiction Canon has more weight.

For all this fanfiction that you guys talk about. I have never seen it displayed in on of their fights for the last 50 years. Where is the evidence? We assume Thor could dimensionally remove hulk from the battlefield. Yes that is possible, but with out BFR Thor is toast.

And I keep sticking to my original statement.

Canon goes to Hulk
Fanfiction goes to Thor

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Lol Thor was saved by the horn that distracted Hulk, even your scan implies the idea that Thor was saved by this distraction.

Same as the other comic. Your Thor bias is clouding your judgement IMO.

Full power fight yes I am aware of it. Thor wins in FANfiction Canon has more weight.

For all this fanfiction that you guys talk about. I have never seen it displayed in on of their fights for the last 50 years. Where is the evidence? We assume Thor could dimensionally remove hulk from the battlefield. Yes that is possible, but with out BFR Thor is toast.

And I keep sticking to my original statement.

Canon goes to Hulk
Fanfiction goes to Thor

Now let's focus in on what the OP said.

Originally posted by beatboks
Standard Hulk no WB, WW feats for hulk. No warriors madness for Thor. Both will use ALL at their disposal to win.