Examples of inferior characters ragdolling superior characters?

Started by MythLord3 pages

Originally posted by Syndicate
He gets choked for like a second before the SS kicks him in the gut. Why would she have interfered instead of going after Ezra if the FB was capable of maintaining his hold? Regardless of circumstances however how is that a weak showing for Kanan rather then simply a strong one for FB?

It's only logical given their respective feats and SS's action.

Opening, closing *shrug* it doesn't really matter. One shouldn't be harder then the other.

I'm not even going to bother to quote...

He's still helpless in resisting it and there's nothing, but your bias conjecture, to note his guard is down. In fact, if anything, his guard would be up. This isn't a Kenobi-vs-Dooku thing where there can be interepretations to the Count's ragdolling(which I personally disagree with, but whatevs).

This is flat-out, *****-choking. The Sister kicked him because she's a sadistic **** who gets pleasure by damaging her enemies, obviously. She's also a pedophile and had mommy issues.

Because then that proves than Inquisitors, canonically inferior to any Jedi Master, can turn Kanan into a toy. By this train of thought, Kanan is indeed padawan level. His high-end feats are either from non-canon sources or aren't as impressive as they're made out to be.

Either way, it's irrelevant because it's not her who choked Kanan, it's the inferior Fifth Brother.

The Seventh Sister wasn't actively closing the door, she triggered something because after she got knocked on her ass the doors were still closing.

^ Further proof that all of the Inquisitors are sh!t and that Kanan is also sh!t.

Ventress and that force stun feat in the Republic comics always struck me as an outlier.

Wasn't it poisoned Mullet Obi-Wan?

Yes sir

Originally posted by MythLord
Because then that proves than Inquisitors, canonically inferior to any Jedi Master,
Proof?

He's in a sh!tty position whatever he does considering if he expends power to counter the choke the SS will just move in while he's distracted.

Or because she wanted to disable him before he could break out of it which he should logically be able to do given Kanan and the FB's relative showings... Nah it has to be based on sadism and mommy issues.

Except it doesn't. Vader did the same to Galen briefly choking him before he was slammed back by a Force push and defeated. It doesn't make him more powerful just comparably powerful. The quote you're referring to also doesn't mark them as inferior force users to Jedi masters just inferior combatants.

His high end feats which are most of his feats are as impressive as they are because Kanan has no such quotes limiting him. Even if the quotes regarding the Inquisitors were true it would only prove my point that FB wouldn't have been able to maintain his force choke on Kanan. Your opinion on what is and isn't canon doesn't mean jack sh!t when Disney's outright stated that all Star Wars media that began after the buyout is all equally canon and apart of one cohesive timeline.

You're saying either the SS or FB's hold on the ship faltered when their partner was taken out. That's only logical given they're going to be distracted by whatever took their partner out and because a part of the power that was holding the ship is gone.

Joker, I have to help my dad wash the car and my mom wants me to do a load of laundry. Take over for me.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
The Seventh Sister wasn't actively closing the door, she triggered something because after she got knocked on her ass the doors were still closing.
I mean, even still, she was exerting energy to close the door while simultaneously holding back the Phantom, so it's still impressive. She was probably attempting to close the doors faster, I suppose.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
I mean, even still, she was exerting energy to close the door while simultaneously holding back the Phantom, so it's still impressive. She was probably attempting to close the doors faster, I suppose.

I mean it's still very impressive, but when I was looking for angles to wank that aspect of it it just didn't work out.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I mean it's still very impressive, but when I was looking for angles to wank that aspect of it it just didn't work out.
Yeah. Like I said she was probably trying to make the doors close even faster, tbh.

Originally posted by Syndicate
He's in a sh!tty position whatever he does considering if he expends power to counter the choke the SS will just move in while he's distracted.

Again, that's your conjecture. He's already deflected a blow from the Fifth Brother after just bladelocking with the Seventh Sister, and still managed to react to both attacks. He could've broken the grip, then got back to bladelocking with one or the other.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Or because she wanted to disable him before he could break out of it which he should logically be able to do given Kanan and the FB's relative showings... Nah it has to be based on sadism and mommy issues.

Well yes, she enjoys torturing and inflicting pain. Besides, if a single kick from someone that got physically dominated by Tano is disabling Kanan, that still isn't a good feat.

And how would she know if Kanan can break out or not? He's helplessly flying there. What, did she read his Respect Thread on the way?

Originally posted by Syndicate
Except it doesn't. Vader did the same to Galen briefly choking him before he was slammed back by a Force push and defeated. It doesn't make him more powerful just comparably powerful. The quote you're referring to also doesn't mark them as inferior force users to Jedi masters just inferior combatants.

You do realize I always had Vader > Galen, even by TFU, right? Therefore, your argument falls on deaf ears.

And given how combat is in a big way affected by one's Force power, like 80% of the time the Force is what grants victory even in duels, then that also means any Jedi Master can choke Kanan if they wished.

Originally posted by Syndicate
His high end feats which are most of his feats are as impressive as they are because Kanan has no such quotes limiting him. Even if the quotes regarding the Inquisitors were true it would only prove my point that FB wouldn't have been able to maintain his force choke on Kanan. Your opinion on what is and isn't canon doesn't mean jack sh!t when Disney's outright stated that all Star Wars media that began after the buyout is all equally canon and apart of one cohesive timeline.

Using your "FEATS ONLY" approach is dumb, if Kanan got choked then he's an inferior Force user. It's as simple as that.

And given how that was a Magazine series that seems to think Savage = Maul, Kenobi can one-shot Anakin and Vader versus Maul is an even split, I legitimately wouldn't take it series, no matter when it was published. And Disney was referring to the comics and novels, lmao.

Originally posted by Syndicate
You're saying either the SS or FB's hold on the ship faltered when their partner was taken out. That's only logical given they're going to be distracted by whatever took their partner out and because a part of the power that was holding the ship is gone.

Yes, therefore they can't do that feat individually, just collectively. How do you not comprehend basic words?

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Proof?

Of what, hon?

That Inquisitors are canonically inferior to any Jedi Master. 🙂

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Proof?

Don't have the quote on me, but he says if the Inquisitor fights Kenobi he's screwed and outlines the fact how he's screwed because he's facing a Jedi Master, and if he ever faces a Master, or someone of significance, he'll have to call Vader for aid.

That's referring to the Grand Inquisitor, who is canonically above every other Inquisitor.

Not are if that means every Jedi master. I mean Palpatine warns that Anakin and Obi Wan can't beat Dooku because he's a Sith Lord, but they could easily beat Darth Bandon.

Plus, Filoni has said the best Inquisitor ~ Asajj Ventress, so obviously they aren't capped at random Jedi Master level.