Originally posted by |King Joker|
Yeah, the Eighth Brother doesn't have anything. As for the Fifth Brother, he has dominating Kanan (who has some decent Force feats himself) and throwing Ezra, along with holding back the Phantom with the Seventh Sister. I believe the Seventh Sister's only Force feats are holding back the Phantom briefly while closing the door.
Interesting. I'm wondering which among the Inquisitors Sion can just Crush into submission immediately. How powerful do you reckon the Eighth Brother is?
Sion might still be able to Crush Fifth and Seventh since he managed to do so to mid-game Exile, who, through Battle Meditation, was already shifting fights from evenly matched to having one side one-shot the other, and she did that on one of her first planets too.
How skilled do you think each of the Inquisitors are?
Originally posted by SunRazerThere's no way to tell, really. I mean, he should be decently powerful, given he was the one sent to hunt Maul. Other than that, *shrug*.
Interesting. I'm wondering which among the Inquisitors Sion can just Crush into submission immediately. How powerful do you reckon the Eighth Brother is?Sion might still be able to Crush Fifth and Seventh since he managed to do so to mid-game Exile, who, through Battle Meditation, was already shifting fights from evenly matched to having one side one-shot the other, and she did that on one of her first planets too.
How skilled do you think each of the Inquisitors are?
Kanan's Force feats prior to the Fifth Brother ragdolling him is halting a cave-in after five years of not using the Force, and catching Ezra with the Force after he fell a great distance. There's probably more I'm forgetting, but yeah. Kanan should have improved by a large degree after the cave-in feat, since it was roughly ten years prior to the Fifth Brother ragdolling him, IIRC, and Kanan improved during Season 1 quite a bit, and presumably a decent amount in Season 2. Not too sure about Sion crushing them.
The Grand Inquisitor should be the most skilled: he can identify which lightsaber technique you use within 10 seconds and knows how to counter it, and can identify who your Jedi Master was, which obviously takes an insane amount of technical skill. The Seventh Sister follows; being capable of stalemating Kanan and not get completely stomped by Ahsoka, as the Fifth Brother was. The Eighth Brother should be third, because when it comes to skill, the Fifth Brother doesn't really possess it - he mostly brings Force power and strength to bare in skill.
I'd say the G.I. is probably under TCW Ahsoka in skill, or at least, combative application of said skill. I'm not sure who he's exactly comparable to, though, or the rest of the Inquisitors. They do obviously have the unorthodox factor with their lightsabers.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
There's no way to tell, really. I mean, he should be decently powerful, given he was the one sent to hunt Maul. Other than that, *shrug*.
Decently, perhaps, but not anything beyond Sion's ability to stomp with the Force, IMO.
For that matter, how do you think the Brothers would do against the two Sith Lords? How well could they handle Lightning?
Kanan's Force feats prior to the Fifth Brother ragdolling him is halting a cave-in after five years of not using the Force, and catching Ezra with the Force after he fell a great distance.
How big was the ceiling?
There's probably more I'm forgetting, but yeah. Kanan should have improved by a large degree after the cave-in feat, since it was roughly ten years prior to the Fifth Brother ragdolling him, IIRC, and Kanan improved during Season 1 quite a bit, and presumably a decent amount in Season 2. Not too sure about Sion crushing them.
Fair enough. Doubt I'd put the Fifth Brother over the Exile, though - but then, that's probably because mid-game Exile's quite hard to judge in relation to power.
The Grand Inquisitor should be the most skilled: he can identify which lightsaber technique you use within 10 seconds and knows how to counter it, and can identify who your Jedi Master was, which obviously takes an insane amount of technical skill. The Seventh Sister follows; being capable of stalemating Kanan and not get completely stomped by Ahsoka, as the Fifth Brother was. The Eighth Brother should be third, because when it comes to skill, the Fifth Brother doesn't really possess it - he mostly brings Force power and strength to bare in skill.I'd say the G.I. is probably under TCW Ahsoka in skill, or at least, combative application of said skill. I'm not sure who he's exactly comparable to, though, or the rest of the Inquisitors. They do obviously have the unorthodox factor with their lightsabers.
Interesting. I'd give Sion the edge over any of them, including the GI, in sabers. The other two Sith Lords might be able to take the Fifth Brother, to be honest, provided they can keep up with his strength. The Seventh Sister probably beats either Lord, and the Eighth Brother... I'm not too sure.
Originally posted by SunRazerCan't really argue with that since the Eighth Brother has no Force feats.
Decently, perhaps, but not anything beyond Sion's ability to stomp with the Force, IMO.
Originally posted by SunRazerNot sure. I mean, if AotC Kenobi is anything to go by, it should be pretty easy to deal with, but the Brothers likely haven't trained dealing with it since they hunt Jedi. In pure lightsabers, they should be able to hold their own, I guess.
For that matter, how do you think the Brothers would do against the two Sith Lords? How well could they handle Lightning?
Originally posted by SunRazerKanan was in a mine shaft, and a huge explosion occurred. Here's the excerpt from A New Dawn:
How big was the ceiling?
Light from the blast came first. Emanating into the work area from the blasting tunnel, it reflected dazzlingly off the crystal structures above and to either side of Kanan. The sound came next, a muted boom. Kanan had just reached Yelkin with the crate-topped hovercart when the shock wave hit him in mid-stride. The cart's repulsors were still working; its front bumper caught Yelkin in the gut-and now both they and the hovercart were carried forward, Kanan's hands locked onto the handle for dear life.
Searing cracks resounded across the atrium. Kanan, now a passenger hanging on like Yelkin, knew what was next. Like icicles on a summer day, meter-wide stalactites across the chamber began falling across the ground they'd already covered. First the crystal knives-and then the rock and stone suspended above them, all plummeting into the open space.
Seeing the first shard strike nearby, Kanan hit the ground with his heels for the first time in seconds. Without thinking, he leapt.
Leapt, as he hadn't in nearly a decade, farther than any mortal normally could. Leapt, atop the crates filled with deadly explosives on the careening cart. Leapt, to where he could reach out and grab the shoulder of the unaware Devaronian, clinging for dear life.
The western opening through which the other miners had evacuated was just ahead. Pulling the hapless Yelkin fully onto the hovercart in one motion, Kanan hit the ground off the left side with his next. Guiding the airborne vehicle like a wader moving a raft, he slung the cart toward the exit tunnel. He stumbled, a step shy of safety, as he tried to follow. Twisting faceup as he dropped, Kanan hit the ground. He looked up into the onrushing mass-
-and stopped it, with his mind.
It was an odd feeling, like putting on an old article of clothing. It was like the leap, something he had sworn never to do. Not in front of anyone, to be sure.
But now he had done it. All light was gone, but he could sense the black mass of debris quivering a meter from his head, even as he heard apocalyptic clamor all around. Instinctively, Kanan dug his heels into the tunnel floor and forced himself backward, the tail of his shirt grinding against the surface until he was fully inside the reinforced western tunnel.
And then he let go. Let go with his mind, and listened as a mountain, denied, found the space where he had landed.
Originally posted by SunRazerMakes sense.
Fair enough. Doubt I'd put the Fifth Brother over the Exile, though - but then, that's probably because mid-game Exile's quite hard to judge in relation to power.
Originally posted by SunRazerWhat does Sion have going for him regarding saber skill?
Interesting. I'd give Sion the edge over any of them, including the GI, in sabers. The other two Sith Lords might be able to take the Fifth Brother, to be honest, provided they can keep up with his strength. The Seventh Sister probably beats either Lord, and the Eighth Brother... I'm not too sure.
To defeat the Fifth Brother you'd probably only need to be moderately skilled and powerful enough to not get ragdolled, as well as strong enough to not get overwhelmed with his physical strength. If the Lords fit that description, they should be good. With the Seventh Sister, I agree she probably beats either Sith Lord, and yeah, the Eighth Brother, to me, seems to be the Seventh Sister except slightly less skilled (Kanan destroyed his lightsaber after a protracted duel). The Eighth Brother seems to be extremely agile though, more so than the Sister, due to his physiology.
Interesting. Regarding Sion's skill, he did sever Kreia's hand with one blow - she obviously wasn't in her prime on Peragus but she was capable of defeating Sith assassins that were feeding off her power to augment their own capabilities.
Then there's him leading the Assassins, which implies superiority over all of them. These are the same Assassins which took out tens of thousands of Jedi in their apparent prime, and they appear to have a hierarchical system based on the number of kills they've made, so I wouldn't be surprised if Sion's killed dozens, if not hundreds of Jedi. I mean, this does take into account his immortality, but his record of killing Jedi should still shit on any of the Inquisitors'.
And then there's the fact that he was a Sith Marauder since the days of the Exar Kun War, where he fought on the frontlines against the Jedi and survived many battles before his first instance of being struck down occurred. After the War, he studied at the Korriban Academy and acquired "new nefarious talents", and after surviving the Sith backstabbing that happened there after KotOR, he went to the Trayus Academy, learned under Traya, ousted her with Nihilus, and then became the undisputed master of the Trayus Academy, which would've given him access to all the dark side knowledge there. This is more to do with power than skill, likely, but still worth bringing up in a fight like this.
The Sith Triumvirate was a lot more active than we may have thought, apparently the Sith were conquering worlds all across the Spire(the 'heart' of Republic civilisation) and most of them barely mounted a defense. Also, the Triumvirate was siphoning energy from the psyche of the despairing Republic.