Red Hood (on Venom) Vs Joker (W. Wrecker's crowbar)

New 52 versions of both characters.
No prep.
No BFR.

Ric says New 52. Uses 80's pic of Joker. vin

On topic, I'd think Joker with Wrecker's crowbar, stomps even, but I'm thinking of Pre-FLASHPOINT venom. I remember Post-FLASHPOINT Batman in venom hurting Superman(despite losing) so maybe it got a push Post-FLASHPOINT?

Hence why i specified New 52 for Joker (nothing beats that pic).

Also New 52 for the venom, no need to derail this incredibly thought provoking topic with OP changes.

In before Mungi mentions how Wrecker's crowbar doesn't work for anyone but for the Wrecker.

Anyway, writers did forget about that at least once, when the Punisher was wielding it. And perhaps when Luke Cage had it, too.

Originally posted by riv6672
Hence why i specified New 52 for Joker (nothing beats that pic).

Also New 52 for the venom, no need to derail this incredibly thought provoking topic with OP changes.

Derail?

^^^Yeah, people dont like change. 😛

In before Mungi mentions how Wrecker's crowbar doesn't work for anyone but for the Wrecker.

😆

vin

But srsly, Venom affects everyone differently. Hence why Bane can shred through multiple Venom-amped villains with ease, a punch from a Venom-amped Batman can draw blood from Superman(and seemingly allow him to fly??), etc. IOW, there's no telling where Red Hood would stack up in comparison to, say, Bane--who seems to get the *greatest* benefits from Venom... Though DCnU Bane admittedly has meta-level stats even without Venom, so there's also that. /shrug

Regardless, if Joker gets working knowledge of the crowbar's abilities and whatnot, there's not a damn thing Red Hood can do here, imo. CIS aside, Wrecker's powers are grossly underrated, and put him in a class WAY beyond the likes of Bane.

F*ck off, Mungi.

Red Hood with Venom was breaking out of supergirls grip or sonesuch.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Red Hood with Venom was breaking out of supergirls grip or sonesuch.

A few pages later, when she was more prepared, Supergirl obviously had no issue overpowering him:
http://i.imgur.com/UEuRZyu.jpg

From a purely stats-based POV, Batman's Venom-fueled 'fight' with Superman was WAY better, imo:
http://i.imgur.com/ONe0naV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Jeq9p8Z.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FvPpzEP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wOPpeDr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cxyPHHn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2FCsP4E.jpg

Which is kind of my point. It's very hard to gauge a Venom-amped Jason in comparison to the others.

All I know is, you're wrong 👆

Hmm.
Who to believe, the guy who's usually never wrong or the guy who's username ends in a number?

Looks like Venom Jason might have a shot this time around!

Originally posted by riv6672
Hmm.
Who to believe, the guy who's usually never wrong or the guy who's username ends in a number?

Looks like Venom Jason might have a shot this time around!

...So Stilt, ftw! 👆

Originally posted by Galan007

Dude, that is creepy as shit! Is that an Engineer from Prometheus?

✅

Originally posted by Galan007
Except for Stilt, everyone's username who has posted in this thread so far ends with a number.

...So Stilt, ftw! 👆