Where to rank Darth Maul

Started by Rockydonovang4 pages

He should be relatively close to Vader and Kenobi as off Rebels per his performance vs Ahsoka. Not quite on par, but in their range.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Rebels/Prime Ashoka level. DD/Prime Vos level. ROTS Kenobi level.

Ahsoka would be closer to Ben Kenobi than ROTS Kenobi, no?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Ahsoka would be closer to Ben Kenobi than ROTS Kenobi, no?

I wouldn't think so. I think ROTS Kenobi was a near equal to Dooku. Dooku just always had his number in their fights making the difference between them seem much larger than it is.

Kind of like how the difference between Rebels Ben and Maul seemed a lot larger than it was from their fight. Ben just clearly had Maul's number in that fight. Not surprising as he was teaching Ashoka decades earlier how best to handle Maul.

Sub-Dooku, above the likes of Jinn, Fisto, Savage etc. Kenobi is probably his closest match/equal.

SoD Maul is equal to ROTS Kenobi.

I rank this:
- Episode 3 Obiwan
- SOD Maul
- Rebels Obiwan
- TPM Maul, TCW Obiwan, TCW Maul

Pretty much confirmed now that hes Ahsoka level.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Pretty much confirmed now that hes Ahsoka level.

Interesting. Source?

Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
Interesting. Source?

Was referring to their upcoming fight in TCW final season which Filoni states will be an epic duel or some shit like that.

Plus they basically stalemated when they fought in Rebels.

Low tier

I don't even see how Maul can be debated as being on either Vader's or Dooku's level. Most of the time I've gotten the impression that he's about a peer of Obi Wan when he's not in the zone.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Was referring to their upcoming fight in TCW final season which Filoni states will be an epic duel or some shit like that.

Plus they basically stalemated when they fought in Rebels.

REBELS being inconsistent as **** doesn't help either.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Was referring to their upcoming fight in TCW final season which Filoni states will be an epic duel or some shit like that.

Plus they basically stalemated when they fought in Rebels.

Sounds like Filoni is wanking Ahsoka and is just hyping their fight. Rebels Ahsoka is rough equal to Rebels Maul who is weaker than his younger iterations due to being older and out of practise. A weaker iteration of Ahsoka can't be on par with a stronger iteration of Maul, but to be fair Matt Martin says fights are dictated by the script, not necessarily their combat prowess.

Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
Sounds like Filoni is wanking Ahsoka and is just hyping their fight. Rebels Ahsoka is rough equal to Rebels Maul who is weaker than his younger iterations due to being older and out of practise. A weaker iteration of Ahsoka can't be on par with a stronger iteration of Maul, but to be fair Matt Martin says fights are dictated by the script, not necessarily their combat prowess.

Filoni doesnt give a shit about consistency though. He just plays favourites.

But yeah also remember Mauls line to Ahsoka in Rebels - Running again Lady Tano - so yeah Maul should win this one, but I dont trust Filoni one bit where any of his favourites are involved.

That’s kinda what kinda grates me about the shows. I mean sure sometimes there was a clear showing of who was superior. But for the most part I felt like a lot of the fights you could never tell who had any kind of edge if at all. Makes it feel like the characters are stagnant.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
That’s kinda what kinda grates me about the shows. I mean sure sometimes there was a clear showing of who was superior. But for the most part I felt like a lot of the fights you could never tell who had any kind of edge if at all. Makes it feel like the characters are stagnant.

That's because they're inconsistent and Non-Canon.

- In the Revenge Of The Sith novelization, General Grevious is implied to be an incredibly dangerous Jedi-killer.

The prequel novel, Labyrinth Of Evil stated that Obi-Wan was one of the few Jedi who could survive against Grevious.

Then The Clone Wars (2008) series comes out and Obi-Wan and Grevious are dueling each other numerous times prior to the Battle Of Utapau and suddenly Anakin's nonexistent-Apprentice Ahsoka is dueling Grevious and making him look a lot less lethal than he actually is.

Both The Clone Wars and Rebels are Non-Canon - they contain inconsistencies that make them incompatible with the Films.

They are entertaining children's shows, but shouldn't be taken seriously as being part of the Saga.

^ So to you Lucas stuff is non canon.

If only the Legends EU stuff is canon to you, then stick to that. No ones taking it away from you.

lol

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ So to you Lucas stuff is non canon.

If only the Legends EU stuff is canon to you, then stick to that. No ones taking it away from you.

Revenge Of The Sith isn't Lucas stuff?

Could've sworn that was created and produced by George Lucas.

Originally posted by Lighter332
Revenge Of The Sith isn't Lucas stuff?

Could've sworn that was created and produced by George Lucas.

TCW was Lucas show.

Point is its the ROTS Novelisation that you seem to be taking as canon above the film itself. Which is cool and makes more sense within the old EU canon.

And I get Lucas always worked closely with the authors of the movie novelisations, so thats a bit of a grey area in terms of Lucas canon. But in the end Lucas canon was the 6 Episodic films and TCW series. Thats from his own mouth. And TCW retcons quite a bit of stuff in the ROTS novelisation.

That said, the ROTS Novel is epic though. If we combine the novelisations with the films for each episodic adventure then ROTS is by far the best Episode Imo.