Originally posted by AncientPower
It isn't even really implied that Revan did anything telepathically, Malachor V corrupted the Revanchists, as is stated repeatedly.
Whether that was by moving the nexus, calling upon the nexus for telepathy, or opening their minds to the nexus via telepathy is open for debate.
Whatever the case, it's impressive regardless. 👆
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Whether that was by moving the nexus, calling upon the nexus for telepathy, or opening their minds to the nexus via telepathy is open for debate.
It really isn't. The quote is:
"Revan is able to draw upon the dark side energies of the planet below and use it during the battle... Simultaneously, more and more Jedi, unable to ignore the power emanating from the planet below, become corrupted by its influence."
It specifically says they were corrupted by the energies emanating from the planet, by Malachor's influence. Not Revan's telepathy.
Uh, did you read the prior sentence?
Revan's action clearly allowed that to happen. The entire battle they were fine until suddenly Revan draws upon the dark side. Once Revan did that, the Jedi were corrupted and the tide of the battle was turned. It's not like the Jedi were feeling the presence of Malachor throughout the battle and then they all snapped. The exposure and corruption happened quickly and suddenly. Which makes sense, since Revan wasn't confronted with the immense nexus until he arrived on the planet - not in orbit above it. Same applies for Kreia.
So, once again:
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Whether that was by moving the nexus, calling upon the nexus for telepathy, or opening their minds to the nexus via telepathy is open for debate.
So you pick option one? Gotcha.
I love how you don't consider Revan literally moving a nexus as ridiclous, but then believe him opening the minds of the Jedi to the planet below is completely out of question.
Revan doing the latter also completely fits within the description of the text, and isn't as ridiclous as him moving Force nexus'.
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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
So you pick option one? Gotcha.I love how you don't consider Revan literally moving a nexus as ridiclous, but then believe him opening the minds of the Jedi to the planet below is completely out of question.
Revan doing the latter also completely fits within the description of the text, and isn't as ridiclous as him moving Force nexus'.
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Like Newguy said, I'm not picking an option. I'm telling you that options 2 and 3 don't exist.
I mean, Thon contained the power of an entire planetary nexus. Revan just drew it into orbit. So its really not all that ridiculous......
There isn't anything remotely in there about opening their minds....... facepalm2
My point was it was done by a technique Revan isn't using. Your point that it's some new technique also goes to what I'm saying - we never seen something like this done before. On the other hand, telepathy is commonly used, and what Revan did isn't much different (in terms of technique) to some of the things Kun does in the NJO trilogy.
You don't see the blatant contradiction? If Revan drew the energies up into orbit, the Jedi would be corrupted there. Instead, the text notes they were corrupted specifically from the energy below (rather than around them). The notion Revan "opened their eyes" to (or made known) the nexus of Malachor via telepathy (rather than direct telepathic domination or moving a nexus), is simply the most logical explanation and is sort of consistent with the themes KotOR II gives off.
Who cares if we've seen it before. It's plainly apparent what the quote says happened. Making things up in support of your headcanon is silly.
No, they would be corrupted from the energies that are being pulled up from below them. Revan isn't picking up the nexus, separating it from the planet, moving it from Malachor into the space above it and then putting it back again, he's extending the nexus into the battle from the planet below. He's drawing the energies up into the fight from Malachor. They're still originating from Malachor, the source of the corruption. Your suggestion isn't the most logical in any capacity because you're just making it up out of nothing. There's no evidence that he "opened their eyes" (is that an actual quote or is that another thing you're fabricating?) via telepathy. There is no option 2 or 3.
For one, there's a clear difference between a theory and fabrication. That retarded comment aside, still, no.
You're missing the point.
The source isn't saying that the planet below is merely the source of the power that corrupted the Jedi from orbit.
It's saying their corruption is directly due to the "the power emanating from the planet below."
The fact I even have to clarify the difference is disturbing.
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Here's another description:
"Using the dark power of Malachor V, he will seduce an army of Jedi, completely loyal to him alone. He will then turn the planet's evil power against the Mandalorian army in battle, luring them to his stronghold and destroying them completely."
Or, this one:
"He learned of the location and the true nature of Korriban, he learned of the location of other Sith artifacts, and he learned how those strong in the light side of the Force could be seducedand made to see the strength inherent in the Sith teachings. "
And this one from Bastila Shan (DS version, but it's referring to the past, so that's irrelevant):
"It is a technique he learned fighting the Mandalorians, that allowed him to convert the last of the Jedi who fought beside him - and murder those who would not. And he fears it is still out there."
The battle was when Revan's techniques and practices he learned on the planet would be fully unleashed.
Seduction and learning techniques about corruption from holocrons =/= "drawing the energies of a nexus up into the fight from Malachor."
Revan also used the energies of Malachor V against the Mandos. Making the nexus present in orbit would have little-to-no effect on non-Force sensitives.
It's not like Malachor V is a wound in the Force yet, nor is he bringing the gravity anomalies up.
But telepathy? Fits the bill. 👆
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However, I'm fully aware you'll not be convinced, regardless of what I say.
Whether it's due to the fact you blatantly can't apply critical thinking to quotes (you think Kun TP raped a world), or you're just ignorant, I can't say.
So, I'll leave it at that. If anyone has a quote concerning my original question, let me know. Thanks. 👆
I know. A theory implies evidence and some semblance of credibility, a fabrication is where you just make something up baselessly.
Oh my god. Do you just not understand what the word "emanating" means? Let me give you a crash course:
emanate
ˈɛməneɪt/
verb
gerund or present participle: emanating
(of a feeling, quality, or sensation) issue or spread out from (a source).
"warmth emanated from the fireplace"
synonyms: emerge, flow, pour, proceed, issue, ensue, come out, come forth, spread out, come; More
be uttered, be emitted, be transmitted;
arise, originate, stem, derive, spring, start
"policy statements which emanate from government departments"
originate from; be produced by.
"the proposals emanated from a committee"
give out or emit (a feeling, quality, or sensation).
"he emanated a powerful brooding air"
synonyms: exude, give off, give out, send out, send forth, pour out, throw out, spread, discharge, disgorge, emit, exhale, radiate; literarydistil
"the delicious aura of perfume which the women emanated"
Revan was drawing the energy up from Malachor, meaning the energy was emerging, flowing, pouring, proceeding, issuing, ensuing, coming out from, coming forth from, spreading out from, coming from, originating, exuding, radiating, stemming, springing and deriving from Malachor. All Revan was doing was extending the nexus upwards, you glorious tool.
I really hope you're able to understand this, for your own sake.
And non-force sensitives are affected by powerful darkside nexuses, lol. Good jorb. 👆