Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Are you going to speculate about hypothetical hypocrisy or are you going to produce evidence of it? Show the receipts.
Why speculate when I'm flat out asking you? If it turns out this is true will you give her shit for copying? Yes or no. Answer the question so we don't need to speculate.
Expand your mind a bit with this.
"Like Melania Trump, I cheated on my homework. Look at me now."
Dave Schilling
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/19/melania-trump-cheated-homework-plagiarism
Originally posted by Lestov16
It's really not the same thing. Last I checked, Michelle likes Saul's works. Donald thinks the Obama's are scum, so unlike Michelle, Trump is not only plagiarizing, but plagiarizing somebody he disparages. It's massive hypocrisy.
Lol dude are you going to sit there and act like people were upset because she copied someone she apparently thought was scum? Since it wasn't, it was just about copying. Headlines weren't "Melania copies someone she totally doesn't like" it was just shit about the overall act of copying.
So it's massive hypocrisy to not give the Obama's shit for their copying, I don't care if they had friggin shrines in their homes to the people they copied. I don't care if Michelle Obama had the name of the person she copied tattooed across her chest, it's irrelevant.
Also even if she did think the Obama's were scum it's irrelevant because the Obama's did not originally write it lol. She could think Obama was the anti-christ for all it matters. She could think the man is literally Lucifer.
It's irrelevant though, hell you could even have flat out hatred for someone and it doesn't mean you need to dislike everything they like.
So just throwing this out there: I think Hitler was a piece of shit. I also enjoy food. I am not going to give up food because Hitler also liked it. I've also read the man was a fan of Mickey Mouse, but nah I'm not going to go burn all the pictures of me and my family at Disneyworld.
Originally posted by Lestov16
It's really not the same thing. Last I checked, Michelle likes Saul's works. Donald thinks the Obama's are scum, so unlike Michelle, Trump is not only plagiarizing, but plagiarizing somebody he disparages. It's massive hypocrisy.
I think the plagiarism thing is kinda blown out of proportion. It's sensational news but in now way beneficial.
Im more concerned with what is actually going to be done. Has any groundwork been laid out for the future.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
I think the plagiarism thing is kinda blown out of proportion. It's sensational news but in now way beneficial.Im more concerned with what is actually going to be done. Has any groundwork been laid out for the future.
Well he just won the nomination yesterday and the party has unifed behind him. Now he just has to win.
If the vote was cast today, he would win. As she has always underperformed and he is always over performing the polls.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
I think the plagiarism thing is kinda blown out of proportion. It's sensational news but in now way beneficial.Im more concerned with what is actually going to be done. Has any groundwork been laid out for the future.
What I find so utterly unacceptable are all the stories I've seen about it without any mention of the Obama's doing the same thing.
Now maybe when this story first broke people wouldn't of known, but I still see people commenting on it in the media without the gigantic friggin asterisk of "well it's possible Michelle Obama also plagiarized".
I mean yes I agree it's a non-story, but if we're going to discuss it ad nauseam we need all the facts.
It should also be telling that people jumped on this story like they were playing in the Superbowl and they just saw someone fumble the ball.
Some people in the media who I used to respect just pounce on this, but they brush off how horrible the FBI director makes Hilary look because that is just meh, but holy shit this woman who isn't a politician might of done something wrong.
Maybe she just didn't know she was doing anything wrong? The ol' Hilary defense. Except Hilary has been in politics for decades and Melania is..some European model.
Originally posted by Surtur
Why speculate when I'm flat out asking you? If it turns out this is true will you give her shit for copying? Yes or no. Answer the question so we don't need to speculate.
You are asking me to speculate. The claim has not been supported, much less substantiated, so you are asking me to respond to an accusation that has no basis.
Perhaps you should put forth as much effort into asking the original poster to substantiate his claim, and then we can cross the bridge of how to respond to it when it is demonstrated to be true.
Until you do that, this is merely a deflection tactic.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You are asking me to speculate. The claim has not been supported, much less substantiated, so you are asking me to respond to an accusation that has no basis.Perhaps you should put forth as much effort into asking the original poster to substantiate his claim, and then we can cross the bridge of how to respond to it when it is demonstrated to be true.
Until you do that, this is merely a deflection tactic.
You calling into question someone's objectivity while showing none on your part, combined with frequent double standards when republicans/democrats are concerned, is pretty damn funny.