Shooting in Munich, Germany Shopping Center

Originally posted by krisblaze
The sense of security makes all the difference.

Low social trust is part of the reason why there are many gun murders.

Gun laws aren't meant to be that effective against attacks that have a lot of planning and though behind them, but rather cut down impulse killings.

Is it not the planned killings that seem to usually come with more devastation though?

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It's not quite clear what intention the shooter had, some eye witnesses said he was saying "scheiß Ausländer" which translates as "****ing immigrants"

As for the gun ban here, there is a way to get a hold of firearms if you are in a "Schützenverein" not sure how that properly translates, it's basically some kind of sports club where you are allowed to shoot on a special place.

And so far every amok run with fireamrs came from people from such sports clubs.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-36870986

Again, terrible news and I'm affraid Germans, much like the French, will see it's just a start of a wave of similar incidents.

Wait.

So these were white nationalists? Not refugees?

Oh...that changes things....

Originally posted by Lestov16
I have nothing to add here. I'm trying to sympathize with these refugees, I really am, but as I stated in another thread, if Islam is incompatible with secularism and human rights, then it's an ideology that must be eradicated.

[spoken in Emperor's voice]
Lestov, come to the right side. I can sense a growing hesitation in you. Accept your anger. It gives you focus, makes you stronger. Join the right side, abandon liberal ways and we shall rule the galaxy together with Emperor Trump [/Emperor]

Like i said, nobody at this point knows anything, it's just what 1 eyewitness said. I would be lying if I said the first thing that came to my mind wasn't ISIS. Especially after the axe lunatic a few days ago.

Well before I comment further, I'll wait for the perpetrator(s) to be properly identified.

As long as they only shot those black people that were in some way asking for it then all is okay.

So this is right where Muslims killed a bunch of people in 1972 at the Olympics.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-crime-munich-idUSKCN1021YZ

Originally posted by Lestov16
Wait.

So these were white nationalists? Not refugees?

Oh...that changes things....

It certainly does change things. The religion of peace might of dodged a bullet today.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Wait.

So these were white nationalists? Not refugees?

Oh...that changes things....

So where are you getting this information?

Originally posted by Surtur
It certainly does change things. The religion of peace might of dodged a bullet today.

So your going off of what Lestov says, when he provided no proof to back up his claim?

Here is the actual video, and this does not look like a white nationalist.

http://pamelageller.com/2016/07/germany-raw-video-of-shooting-at-mcdonalds-multiple-shooters-at-terror-attack-at-munich-shopping-mall-reports-of-second-shooting-at-metro-station.html/

What proof do you have that these are Muslim attackers? The only thing we know is that a witness claimed they heard the attacker deriding foreigners.

Lets just wait until we get an official report.

Originally posted by Lestov16
What proof do you have that these are Muslim attackers? The only thing we know is that a witness claimed they heard the attacker deriding foreigners.

Lets just wait until we get an official report.

I didn't say I had proof, I said it happened right where the 1972 shooting happened.

Where is your proof that these are white nationalists?

You can barely see the perpetrator in that video

EDIT: looks like a white man with black hair.

So a white nationalist started shooting up his own country men?

Originally posted by Lestov16
You can barely see the perpetrator in that video

EDIT: looks like a white man with black hair.

No it actually looks like a tan skinned man with a beard.

5 dead, gunman's whereabouts unknown.