Oh, and also:
Worst part is that I don't even know what he'sshaking his headinvoking demonic rage at. Atan Ahsoka victoryThe implication that I would be willing to argue against Ahsoka if it weren't Satele?At comparing Ahsoka to ArynAt the fact that I don't like working with Satele?Or contesting Satele>ArynOr that I don't like working with Saesee? All of the above? None of the above and he's just bein' a *****? I don't even know, I don't even know.Bing-bangXtasy, come on and sit on my lap and tell me what's troubling you.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66By what, pointing to Satele's failings (against Malgus) as proof Vader would smash her? Right, sounds the same to me. That's quite a lot different from claiming that X can do as good as Y against Z because Y did, which is yes, laughably circular.
Here you point to X's failures as proof Y can take him.Now it seems you redefined your way of thinking. Interesting.
Once a retard. Always a retard. 👆
Except suggesting her loss to Malgus is directly translatable into a worse loss against Vader is flawed.
Both Ahsoka and Satele were staggered by their opponents strength and were using Force Speed to get around it. The only difference in their fights is that Malgus readily employed the Force and used it to gain an advantage, where the majority of Vader and Ahsoka's fight was just duelling.
Don't get me wrong, Ahsoka's feat is better, but you can't use Malgus to suggest Satele couldn't replicate it. Especially a prime Satele...
Once yeah, but Malgus being too fast was the reason she lost, that on top of being brought to her knees in a blade lock which she needed to pull a tree down to escape indicates to me that she was much more pressed by his (weaker) offense than Ahsoka, and no way would have lasted more than 1:30 if Malgus had not readily used the Force.
On the reverse side, there is every argument to made that Ahsoka would have won against Hope Malgus so yeah, its a poor performance for Satele.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Once yeah, but Malgus being too fast was the reason she lost, that on top of being brought to her knees in a blade lock which she needed to pull a tree down to escape indicates to me that she was much more pressed by his (weaker) offense than Ahsoka, and no way would have lasted more than 1:30 if Malgus had not readily used the Force.On the reverse side, there is every argument to made that Ahsoka would have won against Hope Malgus so yeah, its a poor performance for Satele.
Again, no, because the main reason Satele lost was because Malgus could match her speed. Canon Vader genuinely doesn't have the Speed feats while duelling to warrant the same conclusion, IMHO.
While in that bladelock Satele was able to hold Malgus off with one hand, recall. And hold him off when she was grabbing his lightsaber, despite him applying so much pressure his blade was cracking.
Ahsoka is weaker than Satele in the Force, when considering Sateles feats of shattering blast doors, crushing Hex droids and grabbing lightsaber blades.
Also depending on the incarnation, Satele can teleport.