I've already discussed reasons to why the average Sith Lord in the Old Republic, is likely to be near around Dooku level in sabers, which wen't somewhat undisputed. I've also discussed the reasons why Satele Shan might be even faster than Palaptine. From there, we have limited options for contemporary duelists, so we're pretty much down to some TOR powerhouses and a select few Jedi and Sith from the Movie era. Luke and Potentially Yoda. That's about it.
Originally posted by BazookaMaster
She was pretty evenly fighting with Malgus...And in some topics here there were serious analytics describing why Malgus is between Dookus and Yodas levels, but I cant find them :/
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Of course she lost to Malgus obviously... but... she was still giving good fight
LOL @ a pre-prime, Hope or Return Malgus even coming close to Dooku, when he's being fooled around by Darach.
No it doesn't. Grievous' cybernetics weren't fully charged and he was stated to have overwhelmed Fisto regardless. The swordsman quote was just an opinion from Windu and even if it were true is largely irrelevant and useless as a measure of comparison. So all you've got is him killing Magnaguards, which isn't nearly as good as Satele blitzing Sith Warriors.
Grievous still defeated Nahdar Vebb, in the same state. The same Nahdar capable of murking MagnaGuards. And Fisto was overwhelmed near the beginning, towards the end he was clearly very much the one winning.
It wasn't just from Mace's opinion, there are several objective sources claiming Fisto as such. There's also his utter pwnage of AotC Kenobi, while holding back, and Kenobi two years prior to TPM was recognized as one of the most talented duelists in the Order's history, IIRC.
Given how regular MagnaGuards are meant to equal Jedi Knights or Sith Warriors, and these two were among Grievous' elites(i.e. better than your regular MagnaGuards), I'd say it's as good or better, tbh.
Originally posted by MythLord
Grievous still defeated Nahdar Vebb, in the same state. The same Nahdar capable of murking MagnaGuards. And Fisto was overwhelmed near the beginning, towards the end he was clearly very much the one winning.It wasn't just from Mace's opinion, there are several objective sources claiming Fisto as such. There's also his utter pwnage of AotC Kenobi, while holding back, and Kenobi two years prior to TPM was recognized as one of the most talented duelists in the Order's history, IIRC.
Given how regular MagnaGuards are meant to equal Jedi Knights or Sith Warriors, and these two were among Grievous' elites(i.e. better than your regular MagnaGuards), I'd say it's as good or better, tbh.
I'm going to give you a little hint here: No-one gives a shit about beating Magnaguards. Ahsoka wrecked 4 of them at once and Shaak Ti was fighting dozens of them at at a time. That some random ******* like Vebb can wreck them only reveals how shit they are. Also GG beat Vebb by cheap-shotting him while in a bladelock. It's not as if he actually beat him in sabers. So Vebbs ability to kill Magnaguards is irrelevant to how GG defeated him.
Is that so, because I'm looking at his respect thread and I can see no such thing. Please contact the creator and supply him with these additional sources after you post them here. Meh, AotC Kenobi. Satele would pwn him as well. Also isn't that the same source where Fisto lost to Ventress, who Kenobi then defeated?
Again, who cares about Magnaguards. TOR era Sith will always be superior. That Magnaguards can kill fodder PT Jedi says nothing to me. Proof these were good ones though?