Atris Runs The Legacy Era Sith Gauntlet

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Except that wasn't my argument at all. I said she studied all the holocrons including the forbidden ones. Then you threw your tantrum about Wyyrlok and Krayt hur dur, for which I replied with a documented case where Maladi's knowledge exceeds Krayt's.

Nice try to, now you can go back to retirement.

Incorrect.

Nova was arguing about combat applicable knowledge, and defined Maladi's knowledge as ambiguous because you cannot dictate what she learned from said holocrons, whereas Atris learned specifically combat and war relayed techniques of the Sith.

And when you replied, you merely stated that "there's nothing ambiguous, her knowledge surpasses Krayt's"

If you're suggesting her Knowledge surpasses Krayt's when discussing combat applicable powers, you are insinuating her combat knowledge was better. And when pressed on it, your only cite-able example was him not knowing what a Rakghoul was.

I understand your obsession with Maladi, but that's frankly laughable. An instance where her knowledge of history eclipses his does not indicate she knows more than he does.

I may be retired, but you are still not my equal, dear. You'd do well to remember that.

😂

Originally posted by Selenial
Incorrect.

Nova was arguing about combat applicable knowledge, and defined Maladi's knowledge as ambiguous because you cannot dictate what she learned from said holocrons, whereas Atris learned specifically combat and war relayed techniques of the Sith.

And when you replied, you merely stated that "there's nothing ambiguous, her knowledge surpasses Krayt's"

Originally posted by SunRazer
Maladi's ambiguously studied holocrons and forbidden knowledge.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
There's nothing ambiguous about it lol. Maladi's knowledge rivals/exceeds Krayt's.

You moving the goal post to save face is cute tbh. The fact is you think I claimed something else than what I actually said, because you got butthurt over your precious Kotor II wank.

Originally posted by Selenial
If you're suggesting her Knowledge surpasses Krayt's when discussing combat applicable powers, you are insinuating her combat knowledge was better. And when pressed on it, your only cite-able example was him not knowing what a Rakghoul was.

Which is still a lot more than your temper tantrums. Please share your incredible sources that state Krayt's knowledge > Maladi's. Anyway I was talking about dark side knowledge in general.

Originally posted by Selenial
I understand your obsession with Maladi, but that's frankly laughable. An instance where her knowledge of history eclipses his does not indicate she knows more than he does.

You playing the biased card? That's pretty rich. I wonder how many people would consider this blind wanking:

Originally posted by Selenial
Nah, Atris'd beat Nihl.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
You moving the goal post to save face is cute tbh. The fact is you think I claimed something else than what I actually said, because you got butthurt over your precious Kotor II wank.

Moving the goalposts? You quoted an entire passage in which Nova was discussing "teachings of combat and the Force" and "combat-useful powers" where Nova declared Atris ahead. You countered by saying "Maladi's knowledge rivals/exceeds Krayt's." You are the one who never clarified you were talking about dark side knowledge in general or alchemy knowledge so, my dear Zoltan, you are the one moving the goalposts. It's not difficult to grasp 🙂

Oh, and forgive me, I completely forgot Darth Krayt was a KotOR II character. How foolish of me 😆

Which is still a lot more than your temper tantrums. Please share your incredible sources that state Krayt's knowledge > Maladi's. Anyway I was talking about dark side knowledge in general.

No, you've moved the goalposts and pretended that's what you were discussing when you were proven wrong 🙂

Anyway, by your logic, Krayt knowing Dark Transfer and Maladi not immediately places Krayt above her in all areas of combat knowledge. Neat little trick you have here.

You playing the biased card? That's pretty rich. I wonder how many people would consider this blind wanking:

Probably plenty of people who know nothing about both of those characters. I have Talon below Nihl, I merely believe Atris' skillset gives her an advantage over someone who is overall a superior combatant to her.

Shoot me.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Probably down at 1.

Divison within the ranks, this pleases me. 🙂

Down at 1.

Originally posted by Selenial
Moving the goalposts? You quoted an entire passage in which Nova was discussing "teachings of combat and the Force" and "combat-useful powers" where Nova declared Atris ahead. You countered by saying "Maladi's knowledge rivals/exceeds Krayt's." You are the one who never clarified you were talking about dark side knowledge in general or alchemy knowledge so, my dear Zoltan, you are the one moving the goalposts. It's not difficult to grasp 🙂

It's called context. Nova said that her learning from holocrons is ambiguous. For which I replied they are not. Maybe your linguistic skills are not up for the task despite speaking like 4 languages mmm

Originally posted by Selenial
Oh, and forgive me, I completely forgot Darth Krayt was a KotOR II character. How foolish of me 😆

Yeah I'm sure the point was Krayt > Maladi and not at all Atris > Maladi. But doesn't matter, you wank him just as much.

Originally posted by Selenial
No, you've moved the goalposts and pretended that's what you were discussing when you were proven wrong 🙂

Nah it was just your inability to perceive context what made you think that.

Originally posted by Selenial
Anyway, by your logic, Krayt knowing Dark Transfer and Maladi not immediately places Krayt above her in all areas of combat knowledge. Neat little trick you have here.

Straw man. I said Maladi rivals/exceeds Krayt's knowledge (note I didn't even flat out claim Malaid > Krayt) based on her access to forbidden holocrons, and when you even denied the possibility I brought up an instance where Maladi knew more.

Originally posted by Selenial
Probably plenty of people who know nothing about both of those characters. I have Talon below Nihl, I merely believe Atris' skillset gives her an advantage over someone who is overall a superior combatant to her.

Shoot me.

No skillset would make up for Nihl shitting all over her.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
It's called context. Nova said that her learning from holocrons is ambiguous. For which I replied they are not. Maybe your linguistic skills are not up for the task despite speaking like 4 languages mmm

And it was ambiguous in the context of combat ability. He was making his entire post on combat ability. You quoted the entire section on knowledge relating to combat ability.

If someone needs to pay more attention to the context dear, it's you.

Unless you want to admit to being a 90 year old man and suggest your point had absolutely nothing to do with the segment you just so happened to quote.

Yeah I'm sure the point was Krayt > Maladi and not at all Atris > Maladi. But doesn't matter, you wank him just as much.

Krayt wank you have outright stated on numerous occasions to support. Seems to me like you're changing your opinions just to summon a strawman 🙂

Straw man. I said Maladi rivals/exceeds Krayt's knowledge (note I didn't even flat out claim Malaid > Krayt) based on her access to forbidden holocrons, and when you even denied the possibility I brought up an instance where Maladi knew more.

Out of curiosity, who the **** do you think could stop Krayt from studying the forbidden holocrons? He attempted to (and succeeded imo) study Nihilus' Holocron, which was the epitome of forbidden to the Sith.

Originally posted by Selenial
And it was ambiguous in the context of combat ability. He was making his entire post on combat ability. You quoted the entire section on knowledge relating to combat ability.

If someone needs to pay more attention to the context dear, it's you.

Unless you want to admit to being a 90 year old man and suggest your point had absolutely nothing to do with the segment you just so happened to quote.

"Maladi ambiguously studied holocrons" vs "Maladi studied holocrons with ambiguous content". Spot the difference 🙂

Originally posted by Selenial
Krayt wank you have outright stated on numerous occasions to support. Seems to me like you're changing your opinions just to summon a strawman 🙂

I did no such thing. I support Krayt when I think he's winning, I don't wank him just for the sake of wanking. I don't even really like him.

Originally posted by Selenial
Out of curiosity, who the **** do you think could stop Krayt from studying the forbidden holocrons? He attempted to (and succeeded imo) study Nihilus' Holocron, which was the epitome of forbidden to the Sith.

No one? Obviously they were forbidden by him. But Maladi gained access to the same holocrons which is why I said he's rivaling Krayt's knowledge with a possibility, but not certainty, of exceeding it based on the sole instance their knowledge was compared.

Down at one?

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Shado was cutting down siths when was only a padawan and fodderising them in his prime. He was an unmatched duelist at the start of the series. He held his own against Talon in sabers, and he was better than Wolf who stalemated Stryfe to death in a sith temple.

Shado > Atris.

Show me Maladi matching Shado in a lightsaber contest.

There's nothing ambiguous about it lol. Maladi's knowledge rivals/exceeds Krayt's.

We're talking combat knowledge here. Anything to substantiate this claim?

And yes, it is ambiguous. We have no idea what she learned or didn't learn from those holocrons.

Maybe, but Maladi was the top healer of an entire Sith Order. I wouldn't write that down.

Atris was the head librarian of the Jedi Order but you wrote that one off pretty quickly.

Also you skipped the part where Maladi semi-successfully mind ****ed Cade who roughly a year prior casually resisted Karness Muur 👆

On a nexus, and not sure about his condition at the time. And this doesn't seem combat-applicable.