Originally posted by Surtur
Sigh...http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-obama-absolutely-founded-isis/ar-BBvvzMW?li=BBnb7Kz
Because you think it's true or because Trump ranted like a buffoon again or other?
Before you respond, I'd advise you to read up on the 'U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement'.
Obama's foreign policy in Iraq and Syria has been a major catalyst in the creation of ISIS, also, the big melodramatic way he executed Bin Laden didnt exactly go well in the middle east. Like Bin Laden or not, he was a religious leader specifically against the west and for the preservation of traditional muslim values...
I dont know who thought arming Syrians to make another Libya after Bin Ladens death after pulling out of Iraq (next door) would NOT arm dangerous terrorists into forming a new organisation hellbent on destruction of the west, but it happened. And unlike Al Qaeda, these people are actively killing any white person in the middle east. Its probably the most dangerous place on Earth right now, and its due to Obama's foreign policy. His foreign policy might have made him popular, but its created a problem, and its going to get worse. Obama deserves blame.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Is Omar's father endorsing Hillary really equatable to a white nationalist ex-KKK Grand Wizard endorsing Trump?
Did David Duke go sit in the crowd at Trump events?
I'd argue the lesser status is offset by..dude was actually there(while Hilary paid tribute to the people his horrible son murdered, no less).
Whereas David Duke just opened up his mouth about Trump and we had stories acting like Trump was walking hand in hand with the guy(even though Trump denounced him multiple times). I mean this is the father(who also has radical views) of the worst mass shooter in history.
I dunno, I've barely heard a peep out of this and usually when I do it's from people pointing out the hypocrisy.
Originally posted by Surtur
Did David Duke go sit in the crowd at Trump events?I'd argue the lesser status is offset by..dude was actually there(while Hilary paid tribute to the people his horrible son murdered, no less).
Whereas David Duke just opened up his mouth about Trump and we had stories acting like Trump was walking hand in hand with the guy(even though Trump denounced him multiple times). I mean this is the father(who also has radical views) of the worst mass shooter in history.
I dunno, I've barely heard a peep out of this and usually when I do it's from people pointing out the hypocrisy.
So a man who has committed no crime, who has denounced the actions of his son who did commit a crime, whose desire was for his son to join the U.S. military specifically to fight ISIS, who is cooperating with federal investigators, and who has advocated for stronger gun safety measures to prevent gun violence, attended an event that was open to the public to honor those who died in Orlando, and that is supposed to mean what exactly?
If anything, it is a show of solidarity with the victims and the survivors, and not his son, whom he has said he does not forgive. Are parents supposed to be responsible for the crimes of their adult children somehow?
How is that even remotely the same as Trump being endorsed by David Duke, and many other white supremacists groups, and not immediately denouncing them, because he does not want to reflexively denounce racists by affiliation without vetting them first? It is not hypocrisy when the situations are not equivalent.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
I think Omar's father is worse but that's not the point. I think we all know of the liberal bias in the media though and it's not a new thing.
If you denounced the Left-media for running a negative spin on Trump's recent 2nd amendment comment, you should really be denoucing the Right-side media for this as well.
Though not sure how you see Omar Sr. as being worse than Duke, one's a loony guy with visions of grandeur, the other was part of KKK and openly/proudly racist.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
So a man who has committed no crime, who has denounced the actions of his son who did commit a crime, whose desire was for his son to join the U.S. military specifically to fight ISIS, who is cooperating with federal investigators, and who has advocated for stronger gun safety measures to prevent gun violence, attended an event that was open to the public to honor those who died in Orlando, and that is supposed to mean what exactly?
So just to be clear, the guy with these kind of ties wanted his kid to fight ISIS?
So I guess the dad has a bone to pick with ISIS, but not overall radical Islamists.
If anything, it is a show of solidarity with the victims and the survivors, and not his son, whom he has said he does not forgive. Are parents supposed to be responsible for the crimes of their adult children somehow?
Who said they were responsible for the crimes of their children? But again, the father is a radical it seems, but you tried to paint him as some patriot.
How is that even remotely the same as Trump being endorsed by David Duke, and many other white supremacists groups, and not immediately denouncing them, because he does not want to reflexively denounce racists by affiliation without vetting them first? It is not hypocrisy when the situations are not equivalent.
Trump did denounce the groups though. He denounced Duke. Just like you say this guys dad denounced his actions. But he didn't do it quick enough for you?
Originally posted by Robtard
If you denounced the Left-media for running a negative spin on Trump's recent 2nd amendment comment, you should really be denoucing the Right-side media for this as well.Though not sure how you see Omar Sr. as being worse than Duke, one's a loony guy with visions of grandeur, the other was part of KKK and openly/proudly racist.
He's a loony guy with some visions of grandeur and some interesting connections too.
A patriot who wanted his son to fight ISIS? I seriously wonder what Occupy Democrats platform Adam gets his news from..
If you denounced the Left-media for running a negative spin on Trump's recent 2nd amendment comment, you should really be denoucing the Right-side media for this as well.
Originally posted by Withsensibility
The whole point of the second amendment is to shoot the president. Remember in 2008 when hillary was too stubborn to drop out of the primaries because RFK was shot in the california primary? Does anyone remember that? I guess she can be forgiven if shes against Trump.
Rofl