Seems to me like everyone with an opinion only remembers low showings for the team that they argue against, yet contract amnesia when arguing for the team that they've chosen to win. Quasar has some pretty high showings, and so does Nova. Ronan and J'onn are the weak links when it comes to win percentage. J'onn jobs half as much as the Rhino.
Originally posted by hutchy1345
Not match up by match up
Those match-ups are not guaranteed but regarding your match-up results, I would/could change it to Quasar beating Kyle and Nova beating MM. MM's telepathy wouldn't work and he would be susceptible to gravity attacks. Plus, a lot depends on how much World Mind restricts Richard. There is a Hal and J'onn vs Quasar and Nova thread that gives good arguments but I can't post links yet.
Gladiator and Superman have the same power level but folks look down on Glads due to past jobbing.
Im usually the only one to give actual reasons, and I rarely break it down to match ups because nobody should do that except the op.
Yeah, I'm biased towards Marvel but I try to not let that effect my decision. Ibagree on the Quasar, Nova and Ronan part, but they have some useful abilities like force fields and such that will let the two offensive powerhouses with aoe attacks get some shots off (Surfer and Bill) that would be devastating to any team. Surfer and Stormbreaker can do some serious damage when going all out.
I really dont remember much from Captain Atom, so not sure where to place him but I know hes pretty powerful. My only thing is, there is no stomp here, people saying its a stomp either way is silly and nobody on DC side gives a reason cept "flash blitzes". But thats pretty much the anser on any JL vs.match. i lime to use my imagination every once in awhile but whatever.
Quasar had a pretty good showing I believe but I think it was a different one. A chick I believe though.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Those match-ups are not guaranteed but regarding your match-up results, I would/could change it to Quasar beating Kyle and Nova beating MM. MM's telepathy wouldn't work and he would be susceptible to gravity attacks. Plus, a lot depends on how much World Mind restricts Richard. There is a Hal and J'onn vs Quasar and Nova thread that gives good arguments but I can't post links yet.Gladiator and Superman have the same power level but folks look down on Glads due to past jobbing.
Superman beats the shit out of anyone here.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Im usually the only one to give actual reasons, and I rarely break it down to match ups because nobody should do that except the op.Yeah, I'm biased towards Marvel but I try to not let that effect my decision. Ibagree on the Quasar, Nova and Ronan part, but they have some useful abilities like force fields and such that will let the two offensive powerhouses with aoe attacks get some shots off (Surfer and Bill) that would be devastating to any team. Surfer and Stormbreaker can do some serious damage when going all out.
I really dont remember much from Captain Atom, so not sure where to place him but I know hes pretty powerful. My only thing is, there is no stomp here, people saying its a stomp either way is silly and nobody on DC side gives a reason cept "flash blitzes". But thats pretty much the anser on any JL vs.match. i lime to use my imagination every once in awhile but whatever.
Quasar had a pretty good showing I believe but I think it was a different one. A chick I believe though.
Captain Atom has destroyed universes before at the height of his power.
Annhilators are severely out powered here.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Im usually the only one to give actual reasons, and I rarely break it down to match ups because nobody should do that except the op.Yeah, I'm biased towards Marvel but I try to not let that effect my decision. Ibagree on the Quasar, Nova and Ronan part, but they have some useful abilities like force fields and such that will let the two offensive powerhouses with aoe attacks get some shots off (Surfer and Bill) that would be devastating to any team. Surfer and Stormbreaker can do some serious damage when going all out.
I really dont remember much from Captain Atom, so not sure where to place him but I know hes pretty powerful. My only thing is, there is no stomp here, people saying its a stomp either way is silly and nobody on DC side gives a reason cept "flash blitzes". But thats pretty much the anser on any JL vs.match. i lime to use my imagination every once in awhile but whatever.
Quasar had a pretty good showing I believe but I think it was a different one. A chick I believe though.
I think that holding off Galactus's blasts comfortably and for an extended amount of time stands out for Quasar's shield though that may be argued to be PIS.
Originally posted by hutchy1345
Okay but can silver surfer and bill defeat flash kyle superman and mmh? Because even if bill beats WW it doesn't effect the end result
I don't believe Kyle would be in much shape after a fight with Quasar.
At any rate this isn't likely to be a series of 1 on 1 skrimishes.