Gladiator vs Monica Rambeau

Started by Pillow Biter8 pages

Most of the time, realistic power set advantages don't matter that much in comics. Character's tend to perform based on their overall, raw power ranking. Writers find a way for higher power characters to beat less powerful characters, even if they shouldn't. There's always a manhole cover for the Hulk to frisbee into the ranged-attack flyer who is trying to kite him lol
So I don't typically subscribe to the Rock-Paper-Scissors theory. However, sometimes one character is so setup to beat the other that it's hard to see the writer ignoring it. The outs for the more powerful brick would just be too contrived, even for comics. Monica might be like that vs. a pure brick like say Hercules.
I could possibly see Gladiator injuring Monica with his vision attack, somehow, though.

Why would energy attacks...hurt a being who absorbs energy?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How? Genuine q.

The same way he contained a energy attack that almost destroyed a solar system.

He didn't. He was turned amnesiac by the blast.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why would energy attacks...hurt a being who absorbs energy?

Because it's a conceivable out. And comics are comics sometimes. Besides, does that mean no energy attacks can affect Monica, or Surfer, or anyone who can absorb energy? Hmm...

The general consensus on Flash threads is that he's so fast the threads are basically a wash. Monica's on that speed level with energy powers to boot. This thread is a wash.

Monica isn't Flash level in speed.

Blah blah blah she can move at light speed fool.

So do a lot of energy beings. None are Flash level

Moot. Since however fast Flash is, he can still get hit by slow-ass brutes.

Monica's speed isn't the issue here; the issue is that she is pretty much always intangible and can still effectively hurt tangible people while in that state.

Moot. Since however fast Flash is, he can still get hit by slow-ass brutes.

Not in any Flash thread i make. In those the other character's beatenas soon as i hit submit. 😛

Originally posted by carver9
The same way he contained a energy attack that almost destroyed a solar system.

a feat never explained, understood or repeated? sounds like a reasonable option for him. 👆

all his physical skills are useless in this fight. she'd just keep hammering him until he fell. she's proven powerful enough to hurt zeus ffs and she's gotten much BETTER with her powers. he really doesn't stand a chance here unless she fights like a complete moron--and she wouldn't. no brick has much of a chance without some showings to say otherwise. she's one of the most powerful heroes on the planet without question.

Has Gladiators heat vision been fully explored? He may be able to effect her

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Has Gladiators heat vision been fully explored? He may be able to effect her

The only things that can effect/interact with light/photons are electric charges and strong gravity (e.g. black holes).* Gladiator might be able to heat the surrounding air so that it turns into plasma (kind of an electrically-charged gas). This could, in principle, quite effectively absorb Monica's photonic energy. For example, the presence of charged plasma was the reason why the early universe was optically dark ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_the_universe#Dark_Ages ). Similarly, the presence of conduction electrons in electric conductors make them opaque in a wide frequency range.

I don't think Gladiator is smart enough to try something like that, though. And even if he was, Monica might still be able to switch to a frequency to which the plasma is transparent before she passes out from being absorbed.

* And in the MU, several wonky supernatural effects, of course 😛

Originally posted by Magnon
The only things that can effect/interact with light/photons are electric charges and strong gravity (e.g. black holes).* Gladiator might be able to heat the surrounding air so that it turns into plasma (kind of an electrically-charged gas). This could, in principle, quite effectively absorb Monica's photonic energy. For example, the presence of charged plasma was the reason why the early universe was optically dark ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_the_universe#Dark_Ages ). Similarly, the presence of conduction electrons in electric conductors make them opaque in a wide frequency range.

I don't think Gladiator is smart enough to try something like that, though. And even if he was, Monica might still be able to switch to a frequency to which the plasma is transparent before she passes out from being absorbed.

* And in the MU, several wonky supernatural effects, of course 😛

Super heated air shouldn't affect her anyway m she's already been near the suns surface. I'm saying is his eye beams more than just heat.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Super heated air shouldn't affect her anyway m she's already been near the suns surface. I'm saying is his eye beams more than just heat.

Has she been IN the sun (below the surface)? Sun's corona, while indeed made of plasma, has very low density (approx. 0.0000000001 times that of the Earth's atmosphere at sea level) and is thus quite transparent to visible light -- that's why we are able to see Sun's surface. If something is transparent, it naturally shouldn't affect Monica in her (visible) light form.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He didn't. He was turned amnesiac by the blast.

He contained it.

Originally posted by carver9
He contained it.

Proof?

Not that im aware of although it shouldnt matter

Originally posted by abhilegend
Proof?

He contained it and flew out of said blast like nothing happened.