Dooku and Maul vs Revan

Started by darthbane774 pages
Originally posted by Beniboybling

What?

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
As in, who has Dooku defeated in lightsaber combat that is worth their salt? From all the evidence available, he seems to be doing well in his era because combat was on the steep decline.

I mean... we know that Maul isn't worth mentioning here:


Ah, I get ya. Nobody really, besides Kenobi, but that was due more to Force powers than anything. Except in AOTC, but Kenobi wasn't in his prime at the time.

In sabers? I think Dooku's beaten Ventress, GG, AotC Anakin and Obi-Wan and uhhhh. I dunno, he mainly seems to end fights with the Force.

He is an amazing duelist for sure though. Seems like his best saber feats are against people before their primes though, look at Anakin. He stomped AOTC Anakin, but got stomped by ROTS Anakin.

Defeating (legends) Grevious is rather impressive, but by his own omission in Labrynth of Evil, he's not doing so easily. He's also keeping secrets from the Cyborg and likely capitalizing on the flaws in his programming. I do think a random encounter between the two would look very different, if neither had prior knowledge. On the other hand, Revan has faced armies of Assaj Ventress', they're called - Sith Assasins.

Originally posted by darthbane77
What?
You're chatting shit friend. 🙂

I agree, defeating Legends Grevious is something very few people could do I think. As far as Dooku vs Revan would go (back on the OP's topic) Dooku is probably a better duelist than Revan, but I don't think the difference is very big, Revan CAN contend for an extended period. Where Revan wins this fight is in his Force powers, he can't defeat them both (Dooku and Maul) in a straight lightsaber duel, but Revan's Force ability makes up the difference massively.

The Saber advantage is just too strong. Team win

And how big was the saber/blaster advantage for the HoT, Darth Marr, Satele, Lana, Theron, Shae Vizla and Jakarro?

Big enough apparently.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And how big was the saber/blaster advantage for the HoT, Darth Marr, Satele, Lana, Theron, Shae Vizla and Jakarro?

This. HoT alone is easily on Maul and Dooku's level as a duelist, and that's just him. Not including the Wrath, Nox, Barsen'thor, Satele Shan and Darth Marr.

Originally posted by ares834
Big enough apparently.
Yet wasn't Revan winning during the duration of the fight until the intervention of his spirit?

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Yet wasn't Revan winning during the duration of the fight until the intervention of his spirit?

Maybe not "winning" but he was contending well, and he was dominating them for at least a short time. Even though he lost, the fact that it took two strike teams that big and that powerful to kill Revan is testament to his power.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Maybe not "winning" but he was contending well, and he was dominating them for at least a short time. Even though he lost, the fact that it took two strike teams that big and that powerful to kill Revan is testament to his power.
No, he was winning, and would have won if not for his other half.

What did his spirit do? I only remember him showing up at the end after Revan was defeated.

Originally posted by ares834
What did his spirit do? I only remember him showing up at the end after Revan was defeated.

Not to mention, at that time Revan seemed surprised to see him; it doesn't really lend credence to the idea that he intervened in any major way during the battle.

Revan's spirit explicitly aided the protagonists in the Temple of Sacrifice fight, talking to them throughout it, moving structures, and teleporting them to various levels of The Core. It shouldn't be any different in the second fight. In the Forgotten Terrace, the fissures and echoes of dark side and light side energy canonically spawned can easily and logically be attributed to the intervention of spirit Revan, especially considering he shows up in full physical form directly thereafter the fight.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
canonically spawned
lmao

Originally posted by Beniboybling
lmao

Here.

A lesser man would be tempted to after reading that post, but I've become hardened to your brand of cancer. 🙂