WWH vs Omega Red with a twist

Started by h1a84 pages

If I open a thread with WWH against Full powered Juggernaut in an indestructible sealed battlefield then a good percentage of members would go for Juggs. Adding in Reds power (life drain, energy drain, healing) then it's a wrap.

Originally posted by h1a8
If I open a thread with WWH against Full powered Juggernaut in an indestructible sealed battlefield then a good percentage of members would go for Juggs. Adding in Reds power (life drain, energy drain, healing) then it's a wrap.

Naah, don't think a good majority would go with Jugs. Maybe you, Kris blaze, and Delta but that's about it.

Me too

This happens to WWH:

They stopped Hulks HF (which an amped OR can do) and then snapped his neck (which a massively amped OR can do).

I thought they depowered WWHulk to his classic levels?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I thought they depowered WWHulk to his classic levels?

They did which is the reason he is grey.

This version of Arkady would be strong enough to hang with WWH, more than durable enough as he's got his armor on top of Juggernaut stats. And with his death spores + life drain, Hulk would be getting noticeably weaker by the moment. And at the same time Arkady would be getting even stronger.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I thought they depowered WWHulk to his classic levels?

Now imagine the life drain/death spores of Arkady, which can already harm Wolvie....now amped massively by golem.

WTF? Is that canon? That was WWH?!?

Originally posted by jrodslam
WTF? Is that canon? That was WWH?!?

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Of course it is. Gamma Corps WWH tie-in.

To be honest I didn't mean OR's Drain and Spores would be amped just his base level strength, stamina, & durability. The strength then be amped high via his normal draining powers. I would believe OR to have a strength amp with the Juggernaut's powers to class 100 again imo.

Hulk wouldn't be able to hurt Juggs significantly enough. And Juggs can definitely hurt Hulk. The problem here is Hulk can't amp past WWH levels and Juggs can.

It would be extremely possible that this version of Omega Red would beat WW Hulk, but I'm wondering whether or not he would grow an immunity to the death spores? Besides, like it or not, WW Hulk held back the entire time, which is likely why people place WW Hulk in threads instead of allowing him to go for broke. I mean in a neutral setting, nothing would stop him from going all out. Because of this fact, WW Hulk loses to more characters than he should under forum rules, while World Breaker Hulk (same character) would destroy many of those same guys.

Iow, you want to ignore his character

Classic juggernaut was reduced to a skeleton and kept fighting effectively. Has beaten hulk before numerous times. With out bfr or TP nobody under skyfather is beating juggernaut at full power. Dam sure not hulk, not my boy superman unless he use T-VO and he hasn't used that power in years. Juggernaut is just made to beat them. Even DD would have to evolve TP to beat juggernaut and thats impossible he only evolves once beaten to have a defense to what killed him so juggernaut would beat the breaks off him too.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Iow, you want to ignore his character

No. In a neutral arena, he wouldn't care less about going all out against a murderous monster like Omega Red. True story that.

Originally posted by mighty adam
Classic juggernaut was reduced to a skeleton and kept fighting effectively. Has beaten hulk before numerous times. With out bfr or TP nobody under skyfather is beating juggernaut at full power. Dam sure not hulk, not my boy superman unless he use T-VO and he hasn't used that power in years. Juggernaut is just made to beat them. Even DD would have to evolve TP to beat juggernaut and thats impossible he only evolves once beaten to have a defense to what killed him so juggernaut would beat the breaks off him too.

The Juggernaut has been beaten by far less than an unleashed Green Scar. In a neutral setting, he'd have no problem with going all out against a murderer like Omega Red. That is within his character if we go by the context of how the Green Scar was portrayed on panel.

Originally posted by Stoic
No. In a neutral arena, he wouldn't care less about going all out against a murderous monster like Omega Red. True story that.

Except for the times he doesn't go all out, even against murderous monsters. Hulk does not kill. True story.

Unless, of course, there is a magical wishing well that brings everyone back to life, so that their deaths aren't lasting.

Which this thread does not have.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except for the times he doesn't go all out, even against murderous monsters. Hulk does not kill. True story.

Unless, of course, there is a magical wishing well that brings everyone back to life, so that their deaths aren't lasting.

Which this thread does not have.

The Green Scar would go all out in a neutral setting against Omega Red with the amplification, let's not kid ourselves DS. This was within his character, and he would go for broke against a monster like Arkady. Also, it is highly likely that he would develop an immunity to the death spores, as he has adapted on the fly in the past. Keep in mind, that this is the same Hulk as always except with a different attitude, and training that enabled him to ramp up to whatever level was needed in an instant. As long as he doesn't have to worry about killing innocent lives (which does not apply to Omega Red) he had no problem with pouring it on. The key here is that they are fighting in a neutral area, and not in the heart of a populated NYC.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Green Scar would go all out in a neutral setting against Omega Red with the amplification, let's not kid ourselves DS. This was within his character, and he would go for broke against a monster like Arkady. Also, it is highly likely that he would develop an immunity to the death spores, as he has adapted on the fly in the past. Keep in mind, that this is the same Hulk as always except with a different attitude, and training that enabled him to ramp up to whatever level was needed in an instant. As long as he doesn't have to worry about killing innocent lives (which does not apply to Omega Red) he had no problem with pouring it on. The key here is that they are fighting in a neutral area, and not in the heart of a populated NYC.

When has Hulk killed, even with murderous villains?