The true rating of Darth Bane

Started by chingchangwalla3 pages

It doesn't help that all his feats are on a nexus :/

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy

Lowballer? You are truly ignorant of facts if you consider the vast majority here "lowballers" The two-three banites believe Bane is stronger than he truly is. The entire board, the board on CV, are finding it difficult to be impressed by this attempt at a movement.


Yes, lowballers. I mean, it's not unique to Bane. There are other chars with high showings that people pretend are sub par in every way, it's just that Bane is one that gets the treatment more often. If Bane were some low tier nobody who got lucky in managing to purge the Sith and establish the Rule of Two then he wouldn't have continued to be mentioned in the later EU timeline, been noted as someone to emulate, etc.

Anyway, I said I wasn't going to argue further for a reason. The Bane trilogy has issues because of the lack of total detail in terms of feats; some of it has to be drawn from context and inference based on how things align with other parts of the Sith saga. There's really no point in having debates when one side continually resorts to, "if it's not literally spelled out, word for word, that this is the level of character X, then I refuse to admit that he/she is capable of this, that, or the other."

People lowball Bane then act like Caedus was the second coming of Palpatine. I'm done arguing it. No matter how many have presented rational arguments for Bane's ability there's a contingent that goes out of their way to pretend like there's no validity to any of it.

Yes, deceiving Zannah and avoiding her onslaught while unarmed shows great skill, period. And yes, having enough mastery of the Force to rediscover how to both assemble and bind the matrix of a holocron then infuse his spirit into it is noteworthy, not going to think otherwise no matter how much you want to scoff at it.

The biggest problem is this: almost all of what transpired is now part of Legends only, and it remains to be seen what if anything will be made of the Bane saga as canon material. The majority of what is could be wiped nearly in its entirety.

Stronger than all Sith before him but the weakest Banite Sith

Originally posted by Ascendancy
People lowball Bane then act like Caedus was the second coming of Palpatine.

Not anymore, kek. People shit on Jacen these days.

Originally posted by Ascendancy
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Anyway, I said I wasn't going to argue further for a reason. The Bane trilogy has issues because of the lack of total detail in terms of feats; some of it has to be drawn from context and inference based on how things align with other parts of the Sith saga. There's really no point in having debates when one side continually resorts to, "if it's not literally spelled out, word for word, that this is the level of character X, then I refuse to admit that he/she is capable of this, that, or the other."

There are assumptions which are easier to take in than others. People will refuse to believe Bane is capable of X because he did X because he never achieves that sort of power later on. It's not anyone's fault. People go by the information presented, compare Bane to other characters and come back to reality.

Simply put, one side is to stubborn to concede Banes inferiority due to an unhealthy obsession with the character or otherwise, the other is adamant in their belief until there's irrefutable that Bane is as good as they say.

People lowball Bane then act like Caedus was the second coming of Palpatine. I'm done arguing it. No matter how many have presented rational arguments for Bane's ability there's a contingent that goes out of their way to pretend like there's no validity to any of it.

Not really, Banes position is at it's best tbh. People with ludicrous opinions withou ltl evidence will be dismissed.

Yes, deceiving Zannah and avoiding her onslaught while unarmed shows great skill, period.

No it doesn't. He knew he couldn't fight her in the current state he was in, so opted to manipulate her into thinking he was arm. It shows a resourceful side of Bane, not skill.

And yes, having enough mastery of the Force to rediscover how to both assemble and bind the matrix of a holocron then infuse his spirit into it is noteworthy, not going to think otherwise no matter how much you want to scoff at it.

What a peculiar train of thought, naive, but peculiar. Still, you'll come to understand in time, if not then you'll remain in the mud with the other toads

Bane briefly tricked Zannah, but then she did attack him and he managed to survive the decently long engagement.

For someone so adamantly and condescendingly arguing against Bane you seem to have a poor grasp on the source material.

DMB, your opinion on Bane's standing?

Genuinely never asked who you think he's comparable to.

Oh I understand how it went. It was little more than short spat, nothing notable enough to call it impressive, decent, and it certainly isn't enough to call it an excellent showing of skill.

It's not a bad feat, although the scene was pretty cringeworthy for Zannah. Not because she failed to kill Bane, but because Drew partially attributed it to her inability to produce an adequate offensive as a Form III specialist, which is beyond retarded when you're considering someone who is supposed to be an extremely skilled duelist.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Roughly on par with Kenobi as duelist, at his peak.
I balked. uhuh
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Slightly above Vader in sabers and Force.
Stawp.

Around Kenobi. He's not Vader level.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I balked. uhuhStawp.

Roughly meaning like Kit tier tbh

What?

Bane would godstomp Fisto.

In a pure duel? Nah.

Bane absolutely would curb Fisto in a duel, especially given the latter's choice of form.

What do you guys make of Banes comment in RO2 where he says he either reached Nadds level or surpassed it?

I assume the Fisto comparison is in terms of skill honies, for which he is forgiven.

Originally posted by Ascendancy
By his actual displays and context he is one of the top five Sith in the mythos.

😆 😆 😆 😆

He's Dooku+ in terms of Force, but not quite Vader tier. In terms of dueling, roughly between Maul and Dooku.