Originally posted by chingchangwalla...Vaapad isn't some Massive amp, it just means he does better against Darksiders, because of his ability to channel his own inner darkness and aggression during combat. As well as his ability to feed off his opponent's aggression.
I was kidding. But how the **** does Obi-Wan even compare to Full darkside fuelled Mace?
It doesn't drain his opponents energy.
It isn't some form of Force Drain.
And he doesn't gain power over time.
Originally posted by chingchangwallaHe's not gaining power from Sidious, in gives him a slight edge in Sabers.
No shit. So with all that power Mace has channeled from Sidious, how does Obi-Wan even compete
Obi competes because he's never been that far behind him in Sabers in the first place.
And him channeling Palpatine's aggression doesn't bump Mace that high up anyhow.
He's not that much better, he's just... better.
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
I give up trying to get through to you. Jesus Christ.
What are you trying to argue?
That Mace is better then Kenobi, so by virtue, him having Vaapad puts him astronomically above Kenobi?
No, that isn't happening.
A Dark Side Kenobi would give Mace a good fight, almost as Good as Dooku would, a Lightside Kenobi could potentially beat him.
Originally posted by chingchangwallaI have ROTS Kenobi above Dooku in sabers by the end of ROTS.
No. Even if you just go by the fact that Mace was said to only be challenged by Dooku and Yoda in sparring sessions. This should put Windu above Kenobi pretty solidly. And then we have force powers... Mace wrecks...
AOTC Kenobi was pushing Dooku.
And no, he wasn't just "challenged" by Dooku.
Dooku beat him.