Luke, Palpatine, Plageius, and Revan vs. The Dread Council

Started by DarthAnt663 pages

There;s a considerable gap between Kenobii and Ventress level. 😬

Not really.

Point is that even if the Dread collective is Palpatine level, they have no chance here.

Yeah, it sure does make sense that they'd be more effective as a single person than with 6 people, lol. Aren't they said to only reach their full powers when its all of them gathered together?

Revan would get freaking gangbanged by powers.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, it sure does make sense that they'd be more effective as a single person than with 6 people, lol.

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I remember when people legitimately argued that Obi-Wan could solo them. The Masters are horrifically underrated.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/darthant66/blog/the-dread-masters-respect-thread/97192/

While I do find the general idea agreeable, I also think that you're looking at the Dread Masters from the wrong angle.

I think the best way to visualize their power is to consider the DM's a single force user that operates through six expressions. Think of it as a Six Paths of Pain scenario, but operating without the involvement of a "puppet master"; instead, the Dread are like a hive mind.

Fighting all six of them is much more dangerous than fighting any single one of them, in any case. Just like in the case of Pain, you're dealing with the same power, but coming from six different directions, with six different complementary ability types. Even sharing between six individuals, because their power is connected, any one of them can draw power from the others at any time as needed.

EDIT: This team would still slaughter them with contemptuous ease, though.

That contradicts the operations though, in which Brontes nearly bests the operation team alone, but when the remaining four are united together, they are still defeated.

1.) Is it stated the Brontes nearly bested the operation team alone?

2.) Was Brontes fought during the same operation as the united masters?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
1.) Is it stated the Brontes nearly bested the operation team alone?

The narrator stated Brontes was "playing around" with them until late in the fight.

2.) Was Brontes fought during the same operation as the united masters?

No. Although they do resurrect her spirit during the Dread Council finale fight.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
While I do find the general idea agreeable, I also think that you're looking at the Dread Masters from the wrong angle.

I think the best way to visualize their power is to consider the DM's a single force user that operates through six expressions. Think of it as a Six Paths of Pain scenario, but operating without the involvement of a "puppet master"; instead, the Dread are like a hive mind.

Fighting all six of them is much more dangerous than fighting any single one of them, in any case. Just like in the case of Pain, you're dealing with the same power, but coming from six different directions, with six different complementary ability types. Even sharing between six individuals, because their power is connected, any one of them can draw power from the others at any time as needed.

EDIT: This team would still slaughter them with contemptuous ease, though.

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Fair enough. That makes sense too. 👆

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
People have to stop pretending they actually comprehend how the Dread Masters' power works. Bestia was crushing slave revolts as an acolyte, Styrak is an incomparable Sith alchemist, and they're all force prodigies who have lived for 600-700 years studying the dark side/phobis devices, to the extent that they possess an "unprecedented" command of the dark side. Actually believing it'd take a sub-HoT tier, (Ant, since you have HoT Kenobi tier, I assume you mean like, Ventress tier? Hilarious. 😂 ) to defeat a Single Dread Master is ludicrous.

What does any of this mean though? Crushing slave revolts? Being an "incomparable" alchemist? Being a "prodigy"? Living very long?

Anyway, regardless of whether you think Ventress could take a dread master, this team absolutely annihilates them with ease. Luke, Palpatine and Plagueis could solo with laughable ease - probably Revan too.

Luke solos, Palpatine solos, Revan has a good shot at soloing, Plagueis has a good chance of soling.

Dread Masters had mad wank in beta, iirc there was a codex entry in which it was mentioned that the Emperor took one of the Phobis devices from them so they could never again be at full power, because at full power they had become a genuine threat to his power.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
People have to stop pretending they actually comprehend how the Dread Masters' power works. Bestia was crushing slave revolts as an acolyte, Styrak is an incomparable Sith alchemist, and they're all force prodigies who have lived for 600-700 years studying the dark side/phobis devices, to the extent that they possess an "unprecedented" command of the dark side. Actually believing it'd take a sub-HoT tier, (Ant, since you have HoT Kenobi tier, I assume you mean like, Ventress tier? Hilarious. 😂 ) to defeat a Single Dread Master is ludicrous.

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Just about any of these characters solo.

Ventress would get vaporised by a Dread Master.

Ventress isn't here, lmfao. Luke, Palpatine, Plagueis and Revan would each solo.

The Dread Fortress becomes the next Malachor V after this slaughterhouse 👆