Oh please, you're nothing but a Crystal Runt. Debating is what I was made for, it's what you were made for. You're a Star Wars debater, like me, but you're not like me... You're weak.
Those who say you're a good debater have low standards. You could've been me, but what are you instead? Just a joke.
Now that I'm done quoting Jasper, I'll get to work on mah post
Originally posted by MythLord
Oh please, you're nothing but a Crystal Runt. Debating is what I was made for, it's what you were made for. You're a Star Wars debater, like me, but you're not like me... You're weak.Those who say you're a good debater have low standards. You could've been me, but what are you instead? Just a joke.
Now that I'm done quoting Jasper, I'll get to work on mah post
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Let's dance...
I'll keep things short and simple: Depa really has no significant advantages in this fight to net her a majority.
She might have a physical advantage in terms of strength, but that wouldn't matter much given Plo's capability of matching Savage in a bladelock, one-handed:
The fact that, through the entire fight, not once was there a moment that Opress overwhelmed Plo through strength, I find it doubtful Depa's strength advantage would matter.
Regarding endurance, they strike me as relatively on par; both have managed to keep fighting after a gruesome injury. For Depa, I'm of course referring to her taking a slash to the back from Grievous, and for Plo that'd have to be a kick from an enraged Opress to the face:
And regarding speed, I'd probably see Koon as superior. He's taken down a battalion of droids and ran across a massive distance simultaneously, in the amount of time it takes a droid to say three words.
But none of these gaps should really be big enough to make any difference, tbh. Though, I do believe Plo's speed would be a bigger advantage than Depa's strength, given how the gap is likely bigger and Plo has never been phased by facing strength duelists even stronger than Depa, meanwhile speed-based offensives, with a hint of strength to them, did seem to overwhelm Billaba(looking at her fight with Grievous).
Regarding skill, Depa's certainly his technical superior, i.e. she mastered more forms and refined her skill to a higher degree. However, who is combatively superior is sorta hard to determine. On the one hand, Plo fought Asajj with a broken arm(which, despite being a rather small hinderance, was still a hinderance nonetheless), to somewhat of a stand-still and stalemated Savage Opress for a lengthy period of time, even landing several hits on Opress. Now, while the Clones did aid Koon, it's worth noting they were all dispatched by Opress just waving his hand, and in one point were more hinderances than assets(they forced Koon to lower his guard, thus allowing Savage to rip his mask off).
While Plo is possibly inferior to either Asajj or Savage, he's certainly comparable. Similarly, Depa has an excellent performance on Grievous, to the point where she manages to disarm him... just to nearly get cleaved in half and driven into a desperate retreat.
Of course, this shouldn't be held against her, but this is TCW/Canon Grievous we're talking about and his track record isn't exactly the greatest. Sure, he's a talented warrior, but compared to his EU self he's by all account inferior, and even in juxtaposition to Savage and Asajj he's only their rival, in-canon.
So, if anyone is a better combative duelist, that'd be Plo given a superior performance against threats of similar calibre, but as duelists they're nigh-evenly matched.
And when we get to Force Powers, I see Plo taking an advantage. His feats are just superior, and his usage of it in combat just strikes me as better than Depa's. In particular, him hurling Asajj -- a being for who all intents and purposes is Depa's superior TK wise -- for a solid distance suggests to me he can do the same to Billaba. His hype and other achievements support my theory: he's collapsed cave entrances, been deemed one of the most powerful Jedi in galactic history, manipulated Pod Hunters through TK, and held half a crumbling bridge with the aid of Tano. He just strikes me as more powerful... And so far that's the only notable advantage either of the combatants have.
Neither is noticeably faster than the other, neither is noticeably stronger than the other, and neither is a better duelist than the other in a combative sense(though I'd probably argue in Plo's favour in 2/3 of those categories if I am forced to choose). With that, the power edge will likely be the most deciding one and in that case: Plo is superior.
Thus, I think the Kel Dor takes it. The ball's in your court, hon.
Originally posted by MythLord
Let's dance...I'll keep things short and simple: Depa really has no significant advantages in this fight to net her a majority.
She might have a physical advantage in terms of strength, but that wouldn't matter much given Plo's capability of matching Savage in a bladelock, one-handed:
The fact that, through the entire fight, not once was there a moment that Opress overwhelmed Plo through strength, I find it doubtful Depa's strength advantage would matter.
Regarding endurance, they strike me as relatively on par; both have managed to keep fighting after a gruesome injury. For Depa, I'm of course referring to her taking a slash to the back from Grievous, and for Plo that'd have to be a kick from an enraged Opress to the face:
And regarding speed, I'd probably see Koon as superior. He's taken down a battalion of droids and ran across a massive distance simultaneously, in the amount of time it takes a droid to say three words.
But none of these gaps should really be big enough to make any difference, tbh. Though, I do believe Plo's speed would be a bigger advantage than Depa's strength, given how the gap is likely bigger and Plo has never been phased by facing strength duelists even stronger than Depa, meanwhile speed-based offensives, with a hint of strength to them, did seem to overwhelm Billaba(looking at her fight with Grievous).
Regarding skill, Depa's certainly his technical superior, i.e. she mastered more forms and refined her skill to a higher degree. However, who is combatively superior is sorta hard to determine. On the one hand, Plo fought Asajj with a broken arm(which, despite being a rather small hinderance, was still a hinderance nonetheless), to somewhat of a stand-still and stalemated Savage Opress for a lengthy period of time, even landing several hits on Opress. Now, while the Clones did aid Koon, it's worth noting they were all dispatched by Opress just waving his hand, and in one point were more hinderances than assets(they forced Koon to lower his guard, thus allowing Savage to rip his mask off).
While Plo is possibly inferior to either Asajj or Savage, he's certainly comparable. Similarly, Depa has an excellent performance on Grievous, to the point where she manages to disarm him... just to nearly get cleaved in half and driven into a desperate retreat.
Of course, this shouldn't be held against her, but this is TCW/Canon Grievous we're talking about and his track record isn't exactly the greatest. Sure, he's a talented warrior, but compared to his EU self he's by all account inferior, and even in juxtaposition to Savage and Asajj he's only their rival, in-canon.
So, if anyone is a better combative duelist, that'd be Plo given a superior performance against threats of similar calibre, but as duelists they're nigh-evenly matched.
And when we get to Force Powers, I see Plo taking an advantage. His feats are just superior, and his usage of it in combat just strikes me as better than Depa's. In particular, him hurling Asajj -- a being for who all intents and purposes is Depa's superior TK wise -- for a solid distance suggests to me he can do the same to Billaba. His hype and other achievements support my theory: he's collapsed cave entrances, been deemed one of the most powerful Jedi in galactic history, manipulated Pod Hunters through TK, and held half a crumbling bridge with the aid of Tano. He just strikes me as more powerful... And so far that's the only notable advantage either of the combatants have.
Neither is noticeably faster than the other, neither is noticeably stronger than the other, and neither is a better duelist than the other in a combative sense(though I'd probably argue in Plo's favour in 2/3 of those categories if I am forced to choose). With that, the power edge will likely be the most deciding one and in that case: Plo is superior.
Thus, I think the Kel Dor takes it. The ball's in your court, hon.
Not bad
close this thread please
it's been already done