Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Did they really have Karen handle Major Force, Black Adam AND Superman like that in a fight almost simultaneously? What issue is this?
Hold your horses there, Blue. They were all under mind control, and it was specifically cited as they were "just puppets."
Don't leave out the context. Anyways STEALING THUNDER was JSA #32-#37.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Did they really have Karen handle Major Force, Black Adam AND Superman like that in a fight almost simultaneously? What issue is this?
Yep and per ABHI, this version of Superman was just as beastly as the real deal. ABHI spammed links with this version of Superman knocking out Captain Marvel.
Originally posted by carver9
Yep and per ABHI, this version of Superman was just as beastly as the real deal. ABHI spammed links with this version of Superman knocking out Captain Marvel.
I know you have to do your best to downgrade Superman so you can pump up Hulk, but this example doesn't help your case when the writer seemed to think Power Girl>Captain Marvel as well, at least as a brick.
Originally posted by tkitna
How was Superman mind controlled? I thought he was supposed to be almost impervious to that according to his die hard fans around here.
Assuming you're not trolling(which the end sure seems to say you are) saying he's quite resistant isn't saying he's impervious. There was a shitload of context for Ultra Humanite to control all those he did.
Originally posted by carver9
👆With that said, he had a mind control device on him but due to his mental blocks, it didn't work and Power girl koed him.
Cheerleading and omitting context? How you of you.
Originally posted by carver9
Yep and per ABHI, this version of Superman was just as beastly as the real deal. ABHI spammed links with this version of Superman knocking out Captain Marvel.
Its literally spelled it out for you.
Originally posted by tkitna
How was Superman mind controlled? I thought he was supposed to be almost impervious to that according to his die hard fans around here.
Originally posted by carver9
👆With that said, he had a mind control device on him but due to his mental blocks, it didn't work and Power girl koed him.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Power Girl completely shat on Superman there, christ.She looked superior to him in Virtue and Vice as well.
Because **** context, amiright?
You mean where Superman was weakened and Power Girl wasn't? So **** context again, it's irrelevant. Superman did better solo against Despero on his own later than him(weakened), Power Girl, Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel did in V&V.
The relative power levels of various pre-Crisis Kryptonians never made much sense.
Superboy Prime is essentially the same as Earth 1 Pre-Crisis Superman, though maybe a bit less powerful due to being younger. Earth 2 Superman initially looked a lot less powerful than Earth 1 Superman, but by the Crisis was just a bit weaker. Suddenly, when SBP and Kal-L reappear in continuity, SBP is MUCH more powerful than Kal-L who is basically equivalent to Post-Crisis Superman.
And then there are Supergirl and Power Girl, whose power levels, relative to the Supermen and each other, have fluctuated as well.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Power Girl completely shat on Superman there, christ.She looked superior to him in Virtue and Vice as well.
He was literally less formidable and the only reason he was koed because he was stunned by breaking the mental control. Heck, everyone else was koed by just the mental feedback.
They never even fought in Virtue and Vice.
Originally posted by krisblaze
I'm starting to think Power Girl doesn't need WW here.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman overpowers nearly every alien superhero on earth including J'onn, Power Girl, Ultra while they were all amped by BlackrockHow much Blackrock amps someone? It amps a normal human to the point that superman hurts his hand punching him
Or allows Batman to go toe to toe with superman
Continued in the next post........
Originally posted by abhilegend
ContinuedSo you can imagine just how insane this feat is.
Superman also breaks the mental control with some help from lois when telepaths like J'onn and Jemm the son of saturn couldn't.
While hugely amped on Blackrock.
Kal-L beat the shit out of her AND JSA together.
I know you are a thorbag but this is low, even for you.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😬He was literally less formidable and the only reason he was koed because he was stunned by breaking the mental control. Heck, everyone else was koed by just the mental feedback.
They never even fought in Virtue and Vice.
I very well could be wrong, but I assumed he meant because her and Hourman hitting Despero together hurt him. I already covered V&V.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Basically she along with every alien hero on earth couldn't even stop one of his arms.While hugely amped on Blackrock.
Kal-L beat the shit out of her AND JSA together.
I know you are a thorbag but this is low, even for you.
And he did better, on his own, against Gog than Power Girl and the JSA did. He also did about as well even after being impaled and injected with liquefied Kryptonite with help from the Teen Titans(mostly Conner), who are<<the JSA team Gog faced(even minus Power Girl).
Or how Power Girl, Kara, Linda Danvers, Cir-El(I think her name was?) and that Silver Age looking Kara needed to work together to free Superman from The Source Wall where Superman was able to free Darkseid on his own(and remove Highfather's Staff on his own, as well).
Or Power Girl and that Silver Age looking Kara attempted to restrain a berserk Conner and ended-up getting overpowered, but Superman was restraining a berserk Conner with one hand while focused on Black Lantern Kal-L, blasting him with heat vision.
But no, all that counts is that she did well against him and others that were handicapped by mind control and she knocked him out after the mindcap was shorted and hurt him(and as you pointed out others were knocked out just from them shorting). No, this is the only fight that matters. 😬
Do you have any explanation for why Superman would be so much more powerful than Power Girl or Supergirl at times? Logically, should not their relative power levels, whatever they truly are, remain essentially the same? If Superman can access dynamic power, shouldn't they be able to as well?
And if Superman is truly, when all the gloves have been dropped, that much more powerful than Peege or Supergirl, do you have an explanation for why? In the case of Supergirl, Superman hasn't even been exposed to more sunlight, right? She was supercharged during her entire voyage to Earth, if I recall.
Originally posted by Pillow Biter
Do you have any explanation for why Superman would be so much more powerful than Power Girl or Supergirl at times? Logically, should not their relative power levels, whatever they truly are, remain essentially the same? If Superman can access dynamic power, shouldn't they be able to as well?
And if Superman is truly, when all the gloves have been dropped, that much more powerful than Peege or Supergirl, do you have an explanation for why? In the case of Supergirl, Superman hasn't even been exposed to more sunlight, right? She was supercharged during her entire voyage to Earth, if I recall.
