Superman vs. Wonder Woman and Power Girl

Started by Delta193811 pages

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
If you are so sure, bz it with delta buddy

Btw owned!

He fears me, as his dropping out of topics to avoid my BZ challenge and coming back when attention has been diverted proves.

Originally posted by carver9
He still seem extremely angry though. Did Wonder Woman fight a Superman more powerful than ever?

My IQ is over 9000.

Your IQ isn't above 9. Just shut up. Quit clinging to your bullshit justification to ignore evidence. You asked if Superman has ever increased his powers mid battle. I ****ing posted scans of it last page. It happens multiple times in the same fight. Get over yourself you hypocrite.

@Carver9

Concessions accepted

Now run along spit-spot.

Originally posted by Delta1938
He fears me, as his dropping out of topics to avoid my BZ challenge and coming back when attention has been diverted proves.

Your IQ isn't above 9. Just shut up. Quit clinging to your bullshit justification to ignore evidence. You asked if Superman has ever increased his powers mid battle. I ****ing posted scans of it last page. It happens multiple times in the same fight. Get over yourself you hypocrite.

I never said he couldn't become weak which is what your scan basically showed. I don't see him becoming stronger, stronger, stronger, stronger due to some type of emotion. It has been shown and proven that was not the case. That's why I asked you, if Superman anger level was at a 1000, would he be able to rip through Superboy Prime? I doubt it and I think the results we saw with his fight against Prime would be the same.

I can find and show you more but I rather Delta to do it in a bz, loser gets banned for a month. What do you say? Are you game?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
[IMG]http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/PSIONIC%20NATURE%20OF%20POWERS/AC586PSYONICNATUREOFPOWERS2.jpg

[URL=http://s647.photobucket.com/user/biensalsa/media/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/PSIONIC%20NATURE%20OF%20POWERS/AC586PSYONICNATUREOFPOWERS3.jpg.html]]http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/PSIONIC%20NATURE%20OF%20POWERS/AC586PSYONICNATUREOFPOWERS3.jpg

I can find and show you more but I rather Delta to do it in a bz, loser gets banned for a month. What do you say? Are you game?

I

Never

Said

He

Couldn't

Become

Weaker

If his body rejects solar energy, if cyclops body rejects solar energy, if Havok body rejects solar energy...they become weaker. This is not what I'm disputing. Him returning back to his normal power level, that is highly possible. He can exceed that if he plunge into the sun. What I'm telling you is, no matter how mad or whatever else that triggers this suppose amp, he gets, he will not drop Orion, Black Adam, etc... with ease, if at all.

Originally posted by carver9
I

Never

Said

He

Couldn't

Become

Weaker

If his body rejects solar energy, if cyclops body rejects solar energy, if Havok body rejects solar energy...they become weaker. This is not what I'm disputing. Him returning back to his normal power level, that is highly possible. He can exceed that if he plunge into the sun. What I'm telling you is, no matter how mad or whatever else that triggers this suppose amp, he gets, he will not drop Orion, Black Adam, etc... with ease, if at all.

Read

CAREFULLY

Are you game for the BZ?

I don't know why link is not working let me look for the right scan

Originally posted by carver9
I never said he couldn't become weak which is what your scan basically showed. I don't see him becoming stronger, stronger, stronger, stronger due to some type of emotion. It has been shown and proven that was not the case. That's why I asked you, if Superman anger level was at a 1000, would he be able to rip through Superboy Prime? I doubt it and I think the results we saw with his fight against Prime would be the same.

I'd tell you to stop, that adults are talking. But you clearly don't know better.

You've been given the very evidence you asked for, and you're blatantly ignoring it.

You constantly show double standards, like when you dismiss Superman busting through Soulfire Darkseid, who no-sold The Presence/ALE, because "it didn't do anything, he reformed," while saying DCnU Superman ripping DCnU Doomsday in half isn't impressive because, and leaving out Wonder Woman's sword can cut atoms, she stabbed him. Even though it didn't bother him, which, by your very own standards, means her sword didn't do shit.

You constantly dodge questions and then accuse others of it.

You tried to change my BZ challenge to suit your stance while acting like you were fully confident, then made the excuse that you didn't have the comics you needed when you damn well knew if you told me that from the beginning, that I would've given you a reasonable amount of time to get what you needed together. But no, you were making excuses so you could not accept it, but still protect your fragile ego by not declining it, proving you know you'd lose. Just like all the playing dumb you do asking me questions I've already answered multiple times, just so you can do whatever you can to make yourself feel better.

You protested the drafting of Imperiex Probes basically going, "But they're Trans!!" and then did everything you could to lowball them in every thread they're mentioned in.

You repeatedly challenged me on Xbox LIVE and accused me of being afraid, despite the fact that we had no common games to play against each other(something you could easily check), and then when you finally got one that I had, you challenged me, I accepted, you kept saying I better show-up, and not back out, and when the time you said you'd be on came.....I waited a couple hours before giving up on your no show. And yet you still said I was the one avoiding you.

You argue that science can't be used to quantify feats when it suits you, but then challenge Rao to quantify a feat, after you previously made it clear that you can't do that.

You will say lip service doesn't count, or feat sharing doesn't count, when it suits you, but then use that as soon as it helps your case.

Example, how you kept dismissing Wally doing an IMP because, "Barry isn't Wally" but then trying to lowball it by using.....Zoom, whose powers don't work the same and nothing even indicated he was doing that, to try and act like it ain't shit.

Or you arguing things for John Stewart(out of context, to boot) as if they apply to Hal, but then complaining when others show things. Of course you make your justification, but then that would only work if you didn't dishonestly ignore/dismiss context. Then you ignore examples for HAL that disprove your stance.

Among many other examples. Dude, you make the oldest profession look like a noble and honorable tradition.

K I'm done taking this off topic.

Superman wins, team isn't enough.

So, anyways, on topic. Let's look at Superman versus Gog.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC815

Is casually owning Gog, while belittling him, up until Gog impales Supes and injects him with liquefied Kryptonite. Let's see how he performs like that?

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816

Has some help from the Teen Titans(mostly Conner) but performs admirably considering his injuries and the Kryptonite. He even gets impaled(and possibly injected) a second time.

Well, the whole thing was for Gog to weaken Superman, as that Kryptonite and other things Gog set-up had been making him artificially age and gradually weaken and even lose powers(like flight). How does he fair while artificially aged, weakened and no flight, against an army of Gog?

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/Army

Despite that part way through he has help from Doomsday, and loses in the end, quite well, on Superman's "weakest day" it seems, considering he's in a less than optimal state and outnumbered. And HEY!! Gog had defeated Wonder Woman and other JLAers!! In fact, it seems he beat the entire JLA minus Batman and J'onn. They even called in reservists. Some duplicate scans.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/Army/JLA

When Superman was serious and healthy(due to Gog changing his mind in the future and reaching back and healing/undoing the Kryptonite stuff) how did he do? He ****ing one-shot Gog.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/FinalBattle

Gog was actually down for a few pages as it went to Superman going to Ma and Pa.

How did Gog do against Power Girl? He never fought her.....one-on-one. He fought the entire JSA.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-14

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-15

And yes, it was the same Gog. The retcon changed the origin, but made it clear this was the same Gog.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/Confirmation

Also, carter, previously I didn't bring-up Superman's performances against Gog when arguing Superman vs Wonder Woman because I usually stick to their own fights and comparative performances against common opponents. And I forgot that Wonder Woman and most of the JLA(including reservists) lost to the Gog Army and Superman severely weakened held his own against them for a while, and was reminded when getting stuff together to respond to your out of context lowballing Superman vs Power Girl.

So ironically, you helped me argue for Superman>>Wonder Woman. Good job!! 👆

Originally posted by carver9
[B if cyclops body rejects solar energy[/B]

Umm, no it doesn't. He absorbs all kinds of energy. Solar is just his main source.

Pr, warned for going off topic. Cyclops isn't here.

Neither is Piotr, or Arthur.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Pr, warned for going off topic. Cyclops isn't here.

Neither is Piotr, or Arthur.

Warned for backseat moding.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Warned for backseat moding.

Reported for backseat moding.

Is there a setting that allows these links to be viewed properly and simply, as one would on a laptop or desktop computer? I get these too-tiny-to-be-read pictures whenever Delta or anybody else, including myself, tries to share info via Photobucket here on my iPhone 5. I'm thinking there MUST be some simple fix that I'm overlooking, for the simple fact no one else seems to complain about the same thing. Assuming you guys also use your phones when examining Photobucket scans, what exactly do you do to view them the way they're supposed to be?

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Is there a setting that allows these links to be viewed properly and simply, as one would on a laptop or desktop computer? I get these too-tiny-to-be-read pictures whenever Delta or anybody else, including myself, tries to share info via Photobucket here on my iPhone 5. I'm thinking there MUST be some simple fix that I'm overlooking, for the simple fact no one else seems to complain about the same thing. Assuming you guys also use your phones when examining Photobucket scans, what exactly do you do to view them the way they're supposed to be?

Actually each pic is meant to be opened like a link. But I'm feeling nice so I'll help. Although it does work to view them on a phone, it's better on a computer if you can do that, and I'd imagine on a tablet as well.

Superman vs Gog at first.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC815/AC815-PG13.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC815/AC815-PG14.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC815/AC815-PG15.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC815/AC815-PG16.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC815/AC815-PG17.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC815/AC815-PG18.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC815/AC815-PG19.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC815/AC815-PG20.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC815/AC815-PG21.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC815/AC815-PG22.jpg

After being impaled and injected with liquefied Kryptonite, with help from the Teen Titans(mostly Conner).

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG01.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG02.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG03.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG04.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG05.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG06.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG07.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG08.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG09.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG10.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG11.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG12-13.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG14.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG15.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG16.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG17.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG18.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/AC816/AC816-PG19.jpg

Artificially aged, weakened and can't even fly against the Gog Army.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/Army/AC824-PG19.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/Army/AC824-PG20.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/Army/AC824-PG21.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/Army/AC824-PG22-23.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/Army/AC825-PG03.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/Army/AC825-PG04-05.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/Army/AC825-PG06.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/Army/AC825-PG07.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/Army/AC825-PG08.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/Army/AC825-PG11.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/Army/AC825-PG12.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/Army/AC825-PG13.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/Army/AC825-PG14-15.jpg

When Superman is healed and serious.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/FinalBattle/AC825-PG25.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/FinalBattle/AC825-PG26.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/SupermanVS/Villains/Gog_II/FinalBattle/AC825-PG29.jpg

Gog Army beat the JLA minus Batman and J'onn, including reservists. Some repeated scans.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/Army/JLA/AC824-PG01.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/Army/JLA/AC824-PG09.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/Army/JLA/AC824-PG21.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/Army/JLA/AC824-PG22-23.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/Army/JLA/AC825-PG09.jpg

How the JSA, Power Girl included, did against Gog, Part I.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-14/JSofA_V2_14-PG08-09.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-14/JSofA_V2_14-PG13.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-14/JSofA_V2_14-PG14.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-14/JSofA_V2_14-PG15.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-14/JSofA_V2_14-PG16.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-14/JSofA_V2_14-PG17.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-14/JSofA_V2_14-PG18.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-14/JSofA_V2_14-PG19.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-14/JSofA_V2_14-PG20.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-14/JSofA_V2_14-PG21.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-14/JSofA_V2_14-PG22.jpg

Part II.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-15/JSofA_V2_15-PG02.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-15/JSofA_V2_15-PG03.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-15/JSofA_V2_15-PG04.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-15/JSofA_V2_15-PG05.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-15/JSofA_V2_15-PG06.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-15/JSofA_V2_15-PG07.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-15/JSofA_V2_15-PG08.jpg

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http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-15/JSofA_V2_15-PG11.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-15/JSofA_V2_15-PG12-13.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-15/JSofA_V2_15-PG14.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-15/JSofA_V2_15-PG15.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-15/JSofA_V2_15-PG16.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/VS_JSA/JSofA-15/JSofA_V2_15-PG17.jpg

And yes, it was the same Gog that Superman fought. The retcon changed his identity and origin and had him crazy thinking he was from the future, but it was still the same guy.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/Confirmation/JSofA_V2_13-PG08.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/Confirmation/JSofA_V2_13-PG13.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/Confirmation/JSofA_V2_13-PG14.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/Confirmation/JSofA_V2_16-PG15.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/Confirmation/JSofA_V2_16-PG16-17.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Comparing/Villains/Gog_II/Confirmation/JSofA_V2_16-PG18.jpg

There ya go. I even put extra space between links.

Delta,

If I get the chance, I'll figure a way to screen-capture and post what I actually see when I'm trying to view any Photobucket link even like what you posted in the previous 2 posts on this phone. It's probably nothing like what you're thinking.

I suspect this is probably a case where an app is required to view properly and that the normal mobile phone page without it is just crap. Chess.com and a few other sites are like that, I know ...

To address the main topic, I'm sure you can guess my stance. Superman versus Wonder Woman alone would be a hard fight for Superman to win. It would be hard for Diana, too, to be sure, and I'm pondering, if it went the grappling route, whether one grabbing the other begins the end with a knee to the groin or a blast of either arctic breath or heat vision to the face.

Superman versus Karen AND Diana, though?
Even Pr doesn't see Superman winning this one, and that's saying something.

It's interesting to think how even the trump card of taking the battle near the sun might not prove a trump card, because Karen herself becomes far stronger as she gets nearer a yellow star.

And, ultimately, there IS that handling of Major Force, Black Adam, and Superman almost at once by Karen. No, I don't believe she's likely to do anything of that sort to Superman in a 1-on1. No, what I'm looking at is the fact she seems to be capable of stunning or even knocking Superman out, more or less with one shot, if someone distracts or compromises him enough for Karen to get one good shot in. I don't envision too many scenarios where Diana can't accomplish at least that much.

Team for the win.

Wonder woman can't scramble Superman's mind in fight.

Superman doesn't needs a diversion to beat the shit out of both.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Delta,

If I get the chance, I'll figure a way to screen-capture and post what I actually see when I'm trying to view any Photobucket link even like what you posted in the previous 2 posts on this phone. It's probably nothing like what you're thinking.

I suspect this is probably a case where an app is required to view properly and that the normal mobile phone page without it is just crap. Chess.com and a few other sites are like that, I know ...

To address the main topic, I'm sure you can guess my stance. Superman versus Wonder Woman alone would be a hard fight for Superman to win. It would be hard for Diana, too, to be sure, and I'm pondering, if it went the grappling route, whether one grabbing the other begins the end with a knee to the groin or a blast of either arctic breath or heat vision to the face.

Superman versus Karen AND Diana, though?
Even Pr doesn't see Superman winning this one, and that's saying something.

It's interesting to think how even the trump card of taking the battle near the sun might not prove a trump card, because Karen herself becomes far stronger as she gets nearer a yellow star.

And, ultimately, there IS that handling of Major Force, Black Adam, and Superman almost at once by Karen. No, I don't believe she's likely to do anything of that sort to Superman in a 1-on1. No, what I'm looking at is the fact she seems to be capable of stunning or even knocking Superman out, more or less with one shot, if someone distracts or compromises him enough for Karen to get one good shot in. I don't envision too many scenarios where Diana can't accomplish at least that much.

Team for the win.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Delta,

If I get the chance, I'll figure a way to screen-capture and post what I actually see when I'm trying to view any Photobucket link even like what you posted in the previous 2 posts on this phone. It's probably nothing like what you're thinking.

I suspect this is probably a case where an app is required to view properly and that the normal mobile phone page without it is just crap. Chess.com and a few other sites are like that, I know ...

There's an app, but I actually haven't used it for viewing other peoples' Photobuckets. They gave me free extra space for having it.

I don't use iPhone, and don't know what browser you're using, but I know on Chrome you can request the Desktop version, so it'll be more like the PC version. Check your browser's options, maybe it has it.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
To address the main topic, I'm sure you can guess my stance.

Yes, the incorrect one. 😄

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Superman versus Wonder Woman alone would be a hard fight for Superman to win. It would be hard for Diana, too, to be sure, and I'm pondering, if it went the grappling route, whether one grabbing the other begins the end with a knee to the groin or a blast of either arctic breath or heat vision to the face.

Not really. The only fights where she's won, you have to ignore context and the fact that despite she ultimately won, she was shown to be physically inferior. The best she's looked in an actual fight she matched him tops and he was weakened and handicapped by mind control. In their fights without extenuating circumstances, he has handled her and made her look inferior without even taking her seriously. I know YOU don't accept the fights being like that, but that's how it is.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Superman versus Karen AND Diana, though?
Even Pr doesn't see Superman winning this one, and that's saying something.

Yeah, that's not going to win you any points here.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
It's interesting to think how even the trump card of taking the battle near the sun might not prove a trump card, because Karen herself becomes far stronger as she gets nearer a yellow star.

He doesn't need to do that. He's handled superior teams to these two. He can one-shot either of them as well.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
And, ultimately, there IS that handling of Major Force, Black Adam, and Superman almost at once by Karen. No, I don't believe she's likely to do anything of that sort to Superman in a 1-on1. No, what I'm looking at is the fact she seems to be capable of stunning or even knocking Superman out, more or less with one shot, if someone distracts or compromises him enough for Karen to get one good shot in. I don't envision too many scenarios where Diana can't accomplish at least that much.

Blue, Blue, Blue. You've been TOLD the flippin' context and you still cling to that? Superman was handicapped by mind control. They made it a point that those under mind control were less formidable, that they had the powers but not the experience, that they were PUPPETS. That that's what gave the resistance a chance. Carter is such a dishonest hypocrite and ignored context in the very scan he showed. She knocked him out because the mindcap was shorting out. People were knocked out JUST FROM THAT. He had that AND was for all intents and purposes sucker punched. It's a good showing for her since she's like a C-Lister in the Superman family, but it doesn't actually show how she'd handle Superman on her own.

Superman's stalemated Ursa, Zod and Non, all of which are superior to either here. He wrecked Ultraman, Superwoman and Owlman(despite some slight context of his instincts being altered). He was taking on Power Girl, Martian Manhunter, Kilowog(with TWO Power Rings) and a whole bunch more, with Power Girl and many others amped by the Blackrocks(which made Batman strong enough to draw blood from Superman), and Power Girl with help couldn't even restrain him. Among other things.

The Gog fight? Superman was wrecking Gog casually, mocking Gog, with a smile on his face, up to the point that he got impaled and injected with LIQUEFIED KRYPTONITE. He still held his own with some help from the Teen Titans(mostly Conner, and even then Superman did a lot of the work), held his own for a while against an army of Gog(which had beaten most of the JLA, including Wonder Woman and reservists) despite being artificially aged and weakened, and when healthy and serious, one-shot Gog.

Gog was taking on the entire JSA, Power Girl included, one-shot Earth-22(KINGDOM COME) Superman, ect, and the JSA only beat him by taking him to the real Gog who stripped him of his power.

Power Girl and a Silver Age looking version of Kara tried to restrain an enraged Conner, and he overpowered them. Superman restrained an enraged Conner with one hand while heat visioning Black Lantern Kal-L.

Superman did better against Black Lantern Kal-L, on his own or with help, than Power Girl did against him despite help from some of the JSA.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Team for the win.

Only if you cherry pick and omit context. Even from the examples you cherry pick.

Team wins unless Superman gets angry. The angrier he get the stronger he becomes.