Again, T-Bolt is just a very inconsistent D'jinn. Sometimes he's pathetic, and other times he's uber as hell.
His inability to beat Spectre is proof of that. Lkz alone, for example, was able to own Spectre and leave him comatose/imprisoned in the subtle planes -- a display of power that shocked even the Pax Dei. So meh...
As for Qwsp: we were given no reason at all to doubt the claims he made about his own power. By their very nature, Imps have total mastery/control over Hypertime/reality.
Originally posted by abhilegendK. I still think the Dynasty stomps, though. 😛
That's why I said WL Sinestro would win against a random imp.Agree to disagree.
Their ranks include:
-Multiple 5D Imps(though if Mxy and Bat-Mite are included, this is obviously spite.)
-Superman Prime, who acts as the battery for the entire Dynasty, has powers gleaned from the Source, sundipped for thousands of years, can evidently preserve entire realities in time, has a GL ring, etc.
-Superman M*, who has powers "far beyond any metahuman, ever."
-Titano, who has galaxy-level psi-abilities.
-SuperStar, a sentient solar system.
-SuperEgo, a metatextual thought-form -- a sentient "good idea".
-etc. etc. etc.
Heck, a small group of the Dynasty's totality was evidently capable of fighting the Infinite Man -- one of the most powerful cosmic baddies in DC.
The *only* real threat, imo, is WL Sinestro... But you're not convincing me that he's beating an Imp('random' or not)... Let alone the entire Dynasty. /shrug
Originally posted by Cogito👆
WL Sinestro did as close to nothing as you can and still appear on panel. To say that he was universal, let alone that he could beat an Imp, is a complete joke. 😬
And he was only able to control the power for a few pages before it started slipping.
Originally posted by Galan007
K. I still think the Dynasty stomps, though. 😛Their ranks include:
-Multiple 5D Imps(though if Mxy and Bat-Mite are included, this is obviously spite.)
-Superman Prime, who acts as the battery for the entire Dynasty, has powers gleaned from the Source, can preserve realities in time, a GL ring, etc.
-Superman M*, who has powers "far beyond any metahuman, ever."
-Titano, who has galaxy-level psi-abilities.
-Superstar, a sentient solar system.
-SuperEgo, a metatextual thought-form -- a sentient "good idea".
-etc. etc. etc.Heck, a small group of the Dynasty's totality was evidently capable of fighting the Infinite Man -- one of the most powerful cosmic baddies in DC.
The *only* real threat, imo, is WL Sinestro... But you're not convincing me that he's beating Klyz... Let alone the entire Dynasty. /shrug
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And he was only able to control the power for a few pages before it started slipping.
So, basically a full forced Superman Dynasty is probably the strongest force/team in all comics?
Originally posted by Cogito
WL Sinestro did as close to nothing as you can and still appear on panel. To say that he was universal, let alone that he could beat an Imp, is a complete joke. 😬
To say he wasn't universal IS a joke.
I know you don't want emotional entities to be that powerful, but it is what it is.
Originally posted by Galan007
K. I still think the Dynasty stomps, though. 😛Their ranks include:
-Multiple 5D Imps(though if Mxy and Bat-Mite are included, this is obviously spite.)
-Superman Prime, who acts as the battery for the entire Dynasty, has powers gleaned from the Source, sundipped for thousands of years, can evidently preserve entire realities in time, has a GL ring, etc.
-Superman M*, who has powers "far beyond any metahuman, ever."
-Titano, who has galaxy-level psi-abilities.
-SuperStar, a sentient solar system.
-SuperEgo, a metatextual thought-form -- a sentient "good idea".
-etc. etc. etc.Heck, a small group of the Dynasty's totality was evidently capable of fighting the Infinite Man -- one of the most powerful cosmic baddies in DC.
The *only* real threat, imo, is WL Sinestro... But you're not convincing me that he's beating an Imp('random' or not)... Let alone the entire Dynasty. /shrug
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And he was only able to control the power for a few pages before it started slipping.
His only appearance is him failing to chain chronovore
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Way to impress.
Ganthet: "Sinestro is losing control of the Entity. His Ego is fueling it rather than his Will to survive"
Hal: "Then I can--"
Ganthey: No one can control the entity. It will reject you as it has Sinestro"
K, we done here?
Originally posted by abhilegendYou say this like WL Sinestro has a plethora of feats to pick from. 😂
And what did this random imp did which was so impressive?His only appearance is him failing to chain chronovore
.Way to impress.
His only feat is exploiting Nekron's easily exploitable weakness, and then losing control of the white power(*no racist*)
Anyway, judging by what we've seen of Imps as a whole over the years(especially Imps written by Morrison), they are each extremely powerful. Hell, I've never seen an instance where Morrison has written an Imp that *wasn't* ridiculously OP -- even as recently as the DCnU, where he had Imps literally transcending the concept of 'story', creating thought-forms of their own, pulling universes out of hats, etc.
I mention Morrison's take on Imps, because Klyz(the Imp in the Superman Squad) was created by Morrison... So I'm not sure why you think he would randomly make this one Imp weaker than the others for some reason..? Aside from that, Mxy has also stated that most Imps create, and endlessly reshape, their own realities for the lulz -- implying that all Imps can whimsically operate on a very haxx/universal level.
Not sure why you think WL Sinestro(who could only control said power for a few pages, mind you) can beat an Imp..?
Originally posted by Cogito
Except that Hal tried to interject suggesting his willpower could control it, and Ganthet immediately shut that shit down.I mean seriously, it's right there.
Originally posted by Galan007
You say this like WL Sinestro has a plethora of feats to pick from. 😂His only feat is exploiting Nekron's easily exploitable weakness, and then losing control of the white power(*no racist*)
Anyway, judging by what we've seen of Imps as a whole over the years(especially Imps written by Morrison), they are each extremely powerful. Hell, I've never seen an instance where Morrison has written an Imp that *wasn't* ridiculously OP -- even as recently as the DCnU, where he had Imps literally transcending the concept of 'story', creating thought-forms of their own, pulling universes out of hats, etc.
I mention Morrison's take on Imps, because Klyz(the Imp in the Superman Squad) was created by Morrison... So I'm not sure why you think he would randomly make this one Imp weaker than the others for some reason..? Aside from that, Mxy has also stated that most Imps create, and endlessly reshape, their own realities for the lulz -- implying that all Imps can whimsically operate on a very haxx/universal level.
Not sure why you think WL Sinestro(who could only control said power for a few pages, mind you) can beat an Imp..?
And I'm sure Nekron>Chronovore.
Originally posted by abhilegendBut we can use logical power-scaling, based on feats comparable beings of the same race have preformed under the same writer.
Because you can't just create feats for imps which they have never shown.
Power-scaling is how you arrived at the conclusion that WL Sinestro is a universal power, for example.