Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Mjolnir gives you the power of Thor. Without it, he is not Thor.Therefore, if the question is asking about Thor...he's going to have it.
Like asking who's faster, Green Lantern or WW. Without his ring, WW is faster.
No. Thor was Thor before Odin ever gave him the hammer. He still controls the weather and lightning without the hammer. he only decided to call himself Odinson because another person adopted the name. If not, then when he lost the hammer to Red Norvel years past other characters wouldn't have continued to call him Thor. Ignoring the mental gymnastics that are about to begin on the topic, two things will remain true. Diana is faster than Thor is if he does not have the hammer, but is slower than he is when he does as far as flight speed is concerned.
Originally posted by Stoic
No. Thor was Thor before Odin ever gave him the hammer. He still controls the weather and lightning without the hammer. he only decided to call himself Odinson because another person adopted the name. If not, then when he lost the hammer to Red Norvel years past other characters wouldn't have continued to call him Thor. Ignoring the mental gymnastics that are about to begin on the topic, two things will remain true. Diana is faster than Thor is if he does not have the hammer, but is slower than he is when he does as far as flight speed is concerned.
Whoever holds this hammer, if they be so worthy, shall bear the power.
Of Thor.
So Mjolnir gives you the power of Thor.
But yes, let's ignore the mental gymnastics. Thor is faster than WW.
Originally posted by Stoic
How is it irrelevant to the topic when it answers the topics question? Diana is faster than Thor in flight when he does not have the hammer, but slower than him when he has it in his possession. Pretty simple stuff right?
Well, I actually figured you were referring to combat speed for Wonder Woman, but still, Riv is looking for flight speed, and if the best Thor can do without Mjolnir is levitate in one place, if he can even do that much(I'm not even positive), then yeah, it's irrelevant as he intended it to be with Mjolnir.
Originally posted by riv6672Well, one wouldnt say, Tony Stark's armor is faster than so and so, but so and so is faster than Tony Stark.You know what, scratch that. Quite a few people would say some shit like that, here. 😆
I WOULD have said this is an inaccurate comparison, but that's when I thought Stoic meant Wonder Woman's combat speed was better. 😆
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Whoever holds this hammer, if they be so worthy, shall bear the power.Of Thor.
So Mjolnir gives you the power of Thor.
But yes, let's ignore the mental gymnastics. Thor is faster than WW.
Shall bear the power of Thor, but it does not say shall be Thor. Odinson can still control the elements, make lighting strike an opponent, and is still as strong or as durable without the hammer. That's all I was saying. With Mjolnir, Thor can fly faster than Diana. He may even be able to fly faster than the Surfer, and the other Heralds of Galactus.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Well, I actually figured you were referring to combat speed for Wonder Woman, but still, Riv is looking for flight speed, and if the best Thor can do without Mjolnir is levitate in one place, if he can even do that much(I'm not even positive), then yeah, it's irrelevant as he intended it to be with Mjolnir.
Thor can actually fly without the hammer due to being able to control the wind. Kind of like Storm from the X-Men. Diana has proven that she is far faster than the wind. I was just looking at it from two different perspectives, and generally thought that I went above and beyond to answer the topics question.
Originally posted by Stoic
Thor can actually fly without the hammer due to being able to control the wind. Kind of like Storm from the X-Men. Diana has proven that she is far faster than the wind. I was just looking at it from two different perspectives, and generally thought that I went above and beyond to answer the topics question.
Let's see it.