Vandar Tokare vs. Galen Marek

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Yeah, everyone here already knows about all of that. The thing is, it doesn't matter. His power--and that of Darth Vader's--is still far beyond the reckonings of the likes of Vandar Tokare. 😂

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Yeah, everyone here already knows about all of that. The thing is, it doesn't matter. His power--and that of Darth Vader's--is still far beyond the reckonings of the likes of Vandar Tokare. 😂
His RAW power is, but he doesn't out it into practice for shit. I will say that Galen isn't terrible when compared to an average Force user, he's closer to a high end Jedi Knight (pretty sure I already this though), but he's nothing to the likes of Sidious. Sidious wanted him to turn to the dark side after he defeated Vader, so he wasn't trying to kill Galen; only break him. http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/shootingnova/blog/vandar-tokare-respect-thread/97875/ Vandar's list of known abilities, statements about him and suggested knowledge make him a formidable Jedi Master.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Anyone can TK ****ing froids, Jedi in the Clone War did it literally all the time.

Sidious was far from desperate in that duel. Gonna have to find the thread I made about Galen, pointing out why he's overrated as ****.

I'm going to need your evidence for anybody being able to TK hundreds of droids.

I'm sorry but I'm going to believe the text over you.

"The Sith lightning spread to engulf the two of them, fueled by both their desperations." - The Force Unleashed.

It looks like it.

Originally posted by darthbane77
His RAW power is, but he doesn't out it into practice for shit. I will say that Galen isn't terrible when compared to an average Force user, he's closer to a high end Jedi Knight (pretty sure I already this though), but he's nothing to the likes of Sidious. Sidious wanted him to turn to the dark side after he defeated Vader, so he wasn't trying to kill Galen; only break him. http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/shootingnova/blog/vandar-tokare-respect-thread/97875/ Vandar's list of known abilities, statements about him and suggested knowledge make him a formidable Jedi Master.

Except it doesn't. Vague accolades do not equate to practical ability.

I disagree, when feats are unavailable then accolades must be used to gauge ability. Vandar's accolades and the statements about him made by others are indication that he's powerful. I'll concede that it's not a very good way to measure the character's power by any means, but it's the only means we have.

Yes and that's fine but why would you assume he's capable of being on Galen's or TFU Vader's level when he was incapable of defeating a single member of the Triumvirate.

He never got a chance to fight any members of the Triumvirate, and it's not like any of the council there could have fought Nihilus. I don't think Galen is that powerful anyway, he had the potential to be great but he never became great.

He never went after a member of the Triumvirate like Meetra because he knew he was incapable of defeating them. Unless it was apart of his plans to let the Triumvirate hold dominion over the Galaxy for a long period of time?

What is your definition of great?

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
He never went after a member of the Triumvirate like Meetra because he knew he was incapable of defeating them.

What? 😬 I mean, his inferiority to Nihilus was blatantly shown when he destroyed the planet he was on, but there's no evidence that he openly choose not to fight because he believed the fight would he hopeless. The Sith Triumvirate consisted primarily of Sith Assassins who attacked from the shadows and then faded back into the darkness. The Jedi had no clue who their true enemy was - much less how to confront them.

Rescinded.

To directly quote: "The Sith strike at us from the shadows, never facing us in open combat."

So, no.

Who's the quote from if I may ask?

Probably one of the Masters in KotOR II. Or Atris.

It's probably Atris from what I know about her.

They all describe the Sith threat in that way. Atris adds that they're cowards, that's all.