ANH Vader vs Kylo Ren (Movie feats only)

If you saw these two movies for the first time and knew absolutely nothing else about either combatant, who would you side with in an all-out fight?

Vader. Because Kylo is afraid he will "never be as strong as Darth Vader".

Originally posted by ares834
Vader. Because Kylo is afraid he will "never be as strong as Darth Vader".

Vader, for the reason stated above. Kylo himself didn't think he was on Vader's level yet.

Originally posted by ares834
Vader. Because Kylo is afraid he will "never be as strong as Darth Vader".

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I'd go a step further and say that even puts Vader above Snoke. But that's just speculation on my part. Kylo's definitely not as strong as Vader though, and probably will never reach that level during the new trilogy.

Ren has surpassed Vader in evil tho

Fair point I guess..disregarding that quote?

Vader rapes.

Originally posted by Kurk
Fair point I guess..disregarding that quote?

Well disregarding that quote and just going by feats, Ren would seem better. Which is why that quote was in there.

With Vader, Disney's protective of its big Iconic Villain. They know his value, which is why they keep confirming every bad guy (sans Sidious ) is his inferior.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well disregarding that quote and just going by feats, Ren would seem better. Which is why that quote was in there.

With Vader, Disney's protective of its big Iconic Villain. They know his value, which is why they keep confirming every bad guy (sans Sidious ) is his inferior.

Until the new EU is explored and we get a ton of info on previous Sith Lords.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Until the new EU is explored and we get a ton of info on previous Sith Lords.

They'll all be inferior to Vader.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
They'll all be inferior to Vader.

We'll see, I'm not having too high hopes considering Legends just had them do all crazy *** stuff to have them be different than just regular TK users and such.

Granted Canon could be more tame than Legends, but we'll find out.

Snoke and even Kylo will shit on Vader. Even Tano wrecked him canonically.

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Originally posted by Trocity
Ren has surpassed Vader in evil tho

Originally posted by quanchi112
Snoke and even Kylo will shit on Vader. Even Tano wrecked him canonically.

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Originally posted by Kurk
This joke has gone on long enough. Come to your senses already...if you have any

Originally posted by Emperordmb
How so?

Ren killed his dad, Vader couldn't even kill his own son. He's soft.

Originally posted by Trocity
Ren killed his dad, Vader couldn't even kill his own son. He's soft.

Ren's use of the Force to freeze a blaster bolt in midair is basically the most impressive movie-verse feat.

TFU Ren stomps ANH Vader 10/10

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