Darth Krayt vs Darth Bane

1. It's referring to Bane at the end of PoD/start of RoT, by which time he's been through the Archives in the academy, Darth Revan's holocron (which even he admits dwarfs all of his prior knowledge), and he's skimmed through Nadd's holocron.

2. Psychometry, you mean? Bane's power still doesn't erode over time.

3. Because Bane's Orbalisks healed him as well, which cancelled it out. And they actually made him stronger. Krayt had no such benefit and was continually seeking ways to rid himself of the parasites.

Originally posted by SunRazer
A vastly pre-prime Krayt "far outstripped" everyone else in the Order. Bane just outstripping everyone in the Order doesn't put him close to Krayt.

Bane vastly outstrips them as well, this is a ridiculous argument.

Originally posted by carthage
Bane tking tents/boxes >> Krayt draining Abeloth/contacting every Sith in the galaxy

Kaan contacted every Sith in the galaxy and compelled them to go to Ruusan. Kaan > Bane????

1. Vastly outstripping Wyyrlok? Probably not. And it's not ridiculous by any means. I brought up that Vong Krayt vastly outstripped everyone else in his Order, and Wollf's response was "Bane also outstrips them", which wasn't a satisfactory response, because, as I said above, just outstripping them in of itself isn't comparable to Reborn Krayt.

2. I'm pretty sure Krayt wasn't really doing what Kaan was, just making his presence felt throughout the galaxy by all Sith so that they knew he would return.

Doesn't he control Sith Troopers from across the galaxy?

1. In TK and lightning? Uh, hell yes he does. No one in Legacy has matched Bane's incinerating lightning. Wolf's point was clear, that Bane can easily match that accolade, you're just being nitpicky and playing semantics.

2. Hence why its a stupid feat for carthage to point out.

Dunno, weren't they linked to him during their creation for something?

Originally posted by SunRazer
1. It's referring to Bane at the end of PoD/start of RoT, by which time he's been through the Archives in the academy, Darth Revan's holocron (which even he admits dwarfs all of his prior knowledge), and he's skimmed through Nadd's holocron.

The Deadly Darth section of the Fact File is referring to Bane from Path of Destruction up to the mid or end of Rule of Two, IIRC. Plus the quote is outside the section itself, referring to Bane overall.

Originally posted by SunRazer
2. Psychometry, you mean? Bane's power still doesn't erode over time.

It's still a trainee Bane's presence.

Originally posted by SunRazer
3. Because Bane's Orbalisks healed him as well, which cancelled it out. And they actually made him stronger. Krayt had no such benefit and was continually seeking ways to rid himself of the parasites.

I was referring to the coomb spores, actually.

1. Nah, that's just how some works do fun facts. It doesn't mean it's referring to DoE Bane.

2. That's post-Lehon Bane, if I recall correctly.

3. Ah. Well, Krayt doesn't exactly have Mara's healing powers, not to mention that all of the healing techniques that Wyyrlok & Maladi came across failed as well.

Also, Mara's best Force feats (by a long shot) come from after the coomb spores (not the same series, though, so eh).

Originally posted by SunRazer
1. Nah, that's just how some works do fun facts. It doesn't mean it's referring to DoE Bane.

It still would've been RoT Bane, since it's detailing his adventures. And by that point, Bane has the holocron of Belia Darzu, Freedon Nadd(who had all of Sadow's knowledge and taught Exar Kun most of what he knows), Revan(who had a planetary stash of knowledge) and, if I remember correctly, Sorzus Syn.

Originally posted by SunRazer
2. That's post-Lehon Bane, if I recall correctly.

I think it was Bane during the time he was poisoned by Githany while still under the Brotherhood's tutelage, so prior to Lehon.

Originally posted by SunRazer
3. Ah. Well, Krayt doesn't exactly have Mara's healing powers, not to mention that all of the healing techniques that Wyyrlok & Maladi came across failed as well.

Also, Mara's best Force feats (by a long shot) come from after the coomb spores (not the same series, though, so eh).

Krayt's Dark Side powers, even at that time, were greater than Wyyrlok's or Maladi's, and they knew a great deal of healing abilities. And Mara didn't do it so much with healing as she did just via her sheer strength in the Force.

Hence why I'm saying someone with superior strength in the Force juxtaposed to Mara(i.e. Krayt) could've sustained himself in battle fairly well. Though I suppose we can look at this as more of a good feat for Mara. 👆

1. Does it actually mention anything in RoT other than the beginning?

2. Bane got poisoned by Githany after his first experience on Lehon. He muses that Revan's holocron showed him how to counteract poisons but he missed one which led to it seeping through his system.

3. Yes, it's a good feat for Mara. And Krayt does sustain himself pretty well. Still doesn't stop it from being a massive hindrance to his abilities.

1. Yeah, it follows Bane right up to him establishing the base on Ambria, getting his Orbalisks and Nadd's holocron. So by this point he has Nadd's knowledge(which is at least comparable to Exar's), Revan's knowledge(like I said, a planetary stash of holocrons) and the knowledge from the Brotherhood.

2. Ah, well that's still before he gains a vast amount of holocrons up until DoE so... meh.

3. Well, what I get from this is that Mara is at least loosely comparable to Krayt in Force strength 🙂 🙂 🙂 Should help me in my CaV. Thanks Nova 👆

1. That's the start of RoT, lol.

2. Still, she would've only been able to sense his raw power, not Force mastery. Raw power remains constant.

3. You might think that. I couldn't possibly comment. 🙂

For the record, the quote saying Bane is > ery Sith before him isn't explicitly referring to Bane at any time period, just that Bane at some point in his career surpassed them all. The quote is separated from the rest of the article.

The idea that it's in the context of the era or any version of Bane is simply an interpretation made by people who have read it, nothing more.

1. Heh, I thought it was mid-RoT. I recall it happening in later pages, like 100 or something. mmm Though it wasn't a memorable book besides the last fight sequence 😖hrugs:

2. Raw power that is superior to a Dark Side nexus that took someone compared to Yoda years to subdue... That still far outstrips anyone in the Legacy era bearing Krayt.

3. A plausibly deniable agreement.

ew

Originally posted by ILS
For the record, the quote saying Bane is > ery Sith before him isn't explicitly referring to Bane at any time period, just that Bane at some point in his career surpassed them all. The quote is separated from the rest of the article.

The idea that it's in the context of the era or any version of Bane is simply an interpretation made by people who have read it, nothing more.

ILS, do you believe that statement to be true?

Originally posted by MythLord
ILS, do you believe that statement to be true?

Too vague a statement. Be more concrete!

Sidious > Plagueis > Maul > Bane ~ Venamis > Vitiate

You forgot to add Dooku in-between Plagueis and Maul 🙂 🙂 🙂

Not Rebels Maul, nigga.

I love when a plan comes together.

Yeah, not Rebels Maul. He should be below Quordis 👆