Cassandra Cain Vs X-23

Started by Magnon5 pages

Originally posted by RadZoa
And she beat all of them legitimately, straight up, no circumstances?

Yeah, legitimate wins for Laura. She didn't have external help and only relied on her skills and powers.

Originally posted by Magnon
Logan. Captain America. Taskmaster. Lady Deathstrike. The Collector. Spider-Man.

wut?

she MAY have had pete in a comprising position but that doesn't mean she won the fight. when and where did she fight cap?? she did beat taskmaster and deathstrike and she took our collector though. surviving in space unaided is one of her better durability feats.

cass is really really good, but laura is just too much for her imo.

Originally posted by leonidas
wut?

she MAY have had pete in a comprising position but that doesn't mean she won the fight. when and where did she fight cap?? she did beat taskmaster and deathstrike and she took our collector though. surviving in space unaided is one of her better durability feats.

cass is really really good, but laura is just too much for her imo.

What about Cassies showing against Deathstroke?

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Originally posted by leonidas
wut?

she MAY have had pete in a comprising position but that doesn't mean she won the fight. when and where did she fight cap?? she did beat taskmaster and deathstrike and she took our collector though. surviving in space unaided is one of her better durability feats.

cass is really really good, but laura is just too much for her imo.

She had Parker pinned and dead to rights.

I don't recall her and Steve fighting, they had only brief skirmishes, to my knowledge. Last one very recently, she tranquilized Steve, preventing him from stopping Logan's escape.

Taskmaster got suckered by the foot claw, but hey, his own fault...

Collector got cheapshotted.

Wolverine didn't want to hurt her, refused to even pop his claws at first.

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Anyway, I'm still going with Laura here, while Mag actually gave 7/10 to Cassie 😛

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
She had Parker pinned and dead to rights.

I don't recall her and Steve fighting, they had only brief skirmishes, to my knowledge. Last one very recently, she tranquilized Steve, preventing him from stopping Logan's escape.

Taskmaster got suckered by the foot claw, but hey, his own fault...

Collector got cheapshotted.

Wolverine didn't want to hurt her, refused to even pop his claws at first.

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Anyway, I'm still going with Laura here, while Mag actually gave 7/10 to Cassie 😛

What about DCnU Rose Wilson? How does X-23 do against her?

I won't lie, Golgo - I have no idea how formidable Ravager is in the new 52... same with Cassie, actually.

I think mostly of pre-Flashpoint versions when I post, unless they are big names [JLA].

Originally posted by Magnon
Yeah, legitimate wins for Laura. She didn't have external help and only relied on her skills and powers.
Really?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
She had Parker pinned and dead to rights.

I don't recall her and Steve fighting, they had only brief skirmishes, to my knowledge. Last one very recently, she tranquilized Steve, preventing him from stopping Logan's escape.

Taskmaster got suckered by the foot claw, but hey, his own fault...

Collector got cheapshotted.

Wolverine didn't want to hurt her, refused to even pop his claws at first.

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Anyway, I'm still going with Laura here, while Mag actually gave 7/10 to Cassie 😛

According to Stilt all of those fights seem extremely circumstantial.

Almost all, but yeah.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
She had Parker pinned and dead to rights.

I don't recall her and Steve fighting, they had only brief skirmishes, to my knowledge. Last one very recently, she tranquilized Steve, preventing him from stopping Logan's escape.

Taskmaster got suckered by the foot claw, but hey, his own fault...

Collector got cheapshotted.

Wolverine didn't want to hurt her, refused to even pop his claws at first.

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Anyway, I'm still going with Laura here, while Mag actually gave 7/10 to Cassie 😛

she's taken it to logan and daken both a couple times and come off looking really good.

she pinned pete, who was still in clowning mode. lol that fight was far from over and you know it hater. 😛

Originally posted by leonidas
she's taken it to logan and daken both a couple times and come off looking really good.

Had the help from Pixie and Armor when she faced Daken on the Utopia island.

Stalemated him in the X-23/Daken cross-over later. Stupid editors, basically made it seem like their first encounter. Same problem with Wolverine vs. Laura, actually... being a Marvel editor must be a wonderful job - all that cash for doing the whole lot of nothing.

Originally posted by leonidas
she pinned pete, who was still in clowning mode. lol that fight was far from over and you know it hater. 😛

It's the same thing with Deadpool. Are we going to keep making those excuses for them? Really?

He fought her, used his webbing even... and failed. Took the worst of the fall and was at the mercy of her claws. She was holding Pete by his throat - one snikt would've sufficed.

cuz every time he's been pinned or looked like he was gonna die, he's died, right? this isn't an excuse, this just wasn't one of those definitive fights imo.

http://orig06.deviantart.net/4813/f/2012/200/6/c/spiderman_vs_x23_by_100hypersonic-d57uvxz.png

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he seemed pretty concerned at the end there. lol

and wait, did you just criticize me for making excuses then say the daken/logan fights were the EDITORS fault?? 😑

Originally posted by leonidas
cuz every time he's been pinned or looked like he was gonna die, he's died, right? this isn't an excuse, this just wasn't one of those definitive fights imo.

http://orig06.deviantart.net/4813/f/2012/200/6/c/spiderman_vs_x23_by_100hypersonic-d57uvxz.png

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/148182/2923451-1162816_02_super.jpg

he seemed pretty concerned at the end there. lol

The only way for it to get more definitive would be by killing Parker and that's something that just wouldn't happen 😛

But I see what you're saying, let's agree to disagree on that.

Originally posted by leonidas
and wait, did you just criticize me for making excuses then say the daken/logan fights were the EDITORS fault?? 😑

The clowning. That's an essential part of Parker's character.

No, you misunderstood. The fights themselves were fine, I just don't like it how Laura met Wolverine (and Daken) for the first time ever... TWICE. In the same continuity.

👆

Yeah the more shit hits the fan the more Parker clowns its how he deals

his biggest fights, the life and death ones, he doesn't clown. he went all out against hulk, no clowing, his classic against logan, no clowning, his worst fights with goblin, no clowning, po'd against taskmaster, no clowning. morlun, no clowning, or it stopped when he realized how bad it was. i remember a huge battle with ock, and again, no clowning. when sh!t gets REALLY real, he no longer clowns. /shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
when sh!t gets REALLY real, he no longer clowns. /shrug

And still gets pwned... 😖hifty:

nutkick

Originally posted by Magnon
I'd say Cass is stronger, faster, and more skilled. She also has better standard gear. Laura, on the other hand, can soak and inflict (if she hits) more damage.

Cassandra 7/10.


Meh, they're both low end bullet timers, so speed won't be a factor. Cassandra might be able to like...complete a double back flip faster but I think the their reflexes are essentially the same. Here's a bullet deflection scan for Laura if you don't believe me.

Strength is debatable too. Cassandra is more skilled, but Laura is just a bad matchup for her. She'll start off strong, then fade as Laura continues to heal while landing her own shots. Cass just lacks the damage output to finish this without getting stabbed repeatedly.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Laura heals even faster than Wolverine.

Her healing factor is insanely consistent too. I can count the number of legit KO's she's had on one hand. Anything less than a grenade may as well be a water balloon.

Good to see you again, Style.

What exactly is the difference between a low end and a high end bullet timer?