Originally posted by snowdragonIf Superman can wreck a planet then he can kill someone using the same force. So he doesn't use the amount of force needed to kill or wreck a planet. Punching at near light speed will not wreck a planet; the distance is too short. It would cause some collateral damage though.
He doesn't have to use full force to wreck the planet, thats the issue with him.His speed and strength in a matter of science destroy the planet. At least Thor has magic behind his hammer and SS is planning on wrecking the planet.
But anyway. I don't understand your point. Summarize the point you are trying to make (in completion).
Originally posted by JBLWhen did WM one shot Thor? I don't recall that ever happening. Beta Ray bill never shattered a planet with a hammer strike. He flew into one from a long distance away. This thread is about Thor standing in one spot and swinging his hammer to strike something, not flying a long distance, building up speed, and ramming something.
Wonderman has one shot Thor. Beta Ray Bill has shattered planets with his hammer. What should that tell you? And please stop with the 50 earth weight crap. That's your invalid calculations that has no place here or show where it states superman is exerting 50 earth weights in writing in a comic.
Accelerating the Earth more than 50 times greater than g (9.8m/s^2) is equivalent to pressing more than 50 earth weights.
Originally posted by h1a8
He holds back. He doesn't kill. He would never use his full force unless he let's loose completely. In OWAW it explains that Superman required training and meditation to release his mental blocks. The result after doing so is more than a 5x increase.
Lol...Thor holds back as well.
Let's not pretend like he does not do it. When he let lose he defeat Drax and Surfer simultaneously.
Another bait thread? I'll bite..Well, tbh, Superman should win most threads like this due to having infinitely more appearances and being DC's flagship characterhe is always going to eventually win the day. So I imagine he is going to have a better feat than Thor or Surfer.
But both Thor and Surfer have hurt multiversal level entities and are probably the only other two in comics besides Fate and Strange who could be considered Supes peer.
Abhi and H1 continue to act like fanboys. Why cant yall just say Supes wins and leave it at that? Instead of saying retarded shit thats not true like "Supea is billions of times stronger or whatever"? They are peers and each can do things the other cant. Unless you somehow believe Supermans fists can manipulate matter, create thunderstorms etc.
Supes wins due to punching Source, a feat that can be matched, but never beaten. Then probably Thor and then Surfer.
And Thor has shattered moons from thousands of miles away and its on panel, in a comic so lie all you want, he can destroy a planet, get over it. Not sure why that bothers you two so much. You try to derail it every thread it comes up, but it happened so get over it.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Another bait thread? I'll bite..Well, tbh, Superman should win most threads like this due to having infinitely more appearances and being DC's flagship characterhe is always going to eventually win the day. So I imagine he is going to have a better feat than Thor or Surfer.But both Thor and Surfer have hurt multiversal level entities and are probably the only other two in comics besides Fate and Strange who could be considered Supes peer.
Abhi and H1 continue to act like fanboys. Why cant yall just say Supes wins and leave it at that? Instead of saying retarded shit thats not true like "Supea is billions of times stronger or whatever"? They are peers and each can do things the other cant. Unless you somehow believe Supermans fists can manipulate matter, create thunderstorms etc.
Supes wins due to punching Source, a feat that can be matched, but never beaten. Then probably Thor and then Surfer.
And Thor has shattered moons from thousands of miles away and its on panel, in a comic so lie all you want, he can destroy a planet, get over it. Not sure why that bothers you two so much. You try to derail it every thread it comes up, but it happened so get over it.
Where did I say anything about him being billions of time stronger than Thor?
Tell that to JBL who thinks Superman is just flying Colossus.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Thor holds back as well.Let's not pretend like he does not do it. When he let lose he defeat Drax and Surfer simultaneously.
Superman has actually built mental blocks which prevents him from ever unleashing his full power unless he goes into full killer mode like OWAW.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Every hero holds back consciously.Superman has actually built mental blocks which prevents him from ever unleashing his full power unless he goes into full killer mode like OWAW.
So "killer mode" is what activates his all out power or are you just looking at high showings as an indication of this?
