Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Given Kanan has accomplished far better feats before this point I don't see why he shouldn't be capable of such.Do you have a reason why you don't believe Kanan would be capable of such?
Define "better feats".
And because Jace is a far greater tactician than Stormtrooper #18819284. Only a moron employs a rocket from far range at a Jedi who's thoroughly prepared for and anticipating the attack. If however Jace can get Kanan covering from a Grenade blast or another attack, and catches him off guard, Kanan is neither a strong enough or skilled enough of a Jedi to protect himself.
Originally posted by ares834
Which would be CIS. Angral should have been able to kill him with a gesture. Of course, that doesn't make good stories.
I just read over it and yeah...it's pretty stupid that Angral just doesn't kill the guy. Angral easily withstand his blaster fire, Angral throws his lightsaber and then 2 pages later, Harron somehow gets a grenade shot on Angral and says that he's not so tough without his lightsaber.
Which is completely retarded.
Originally posted by SelenialI don't really understand why I need to provide examples on why Kanan can TK a non Force sensitive? Even if Jace is a skilled fighter, it doesn't mean he can somehow ward off Kanan attempting to ragdoll him right off the bat, if he so chooses. I guess Jace can win if Kanan attempts to bull rush him like those two retarded Sith warriors in the trailer? But even then, probably not, lol.
Where's Kanan shown that level of telekinetic ability while fighting an opponent of Jace's calibre? There's a reason that SpecForce could fight and kill Jedi/Sith you know 😬
There would be only 2 real reasons as to why Kanan wouldn't be able to TK Jace.
1. Morals, even then he's shown to pretty much use TK a lot during combat, so that's kind of unlikely being much a factor.
2. Jace keeps pressuring/firing upon, keep Kanan moving. However this again is rather...questionable due to Jace having to lug around a giant cannon, which would make for difficult moving and aiming.
He actually hasn't, the best Jace ever did? Was throw aside the two Sith that charged at him in the Hope tralier. That's literally all he's done as far as fighting Sith Warriors in terms of showings. You could perhaps speculate he did during in other conflicts, but solo? Unlikely.
In fact reading further about Jace...he's not all that impressive other than saving Satele from Malgus and becoming Supreme Commander later on.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
I just read over it and yeah...it's pretty stupid that Angral just doesn't kill the guy. Angral easily withstand his blaster fire, Angral throws his lightsaber and then 2 pages later, Harron somehow gets a grenade shot on Angral and says that he's not so tough without his lightsaber.Which is completely retarded.
Hmm. That's stupid, yeah.
Oh, well.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
I don't really understand why I need to provide examples on why Kanan can TK a non Force sensitive? Even if Jace is a skilled fighter, it doesn't mean he can somehow ward off Kanan attempting to ragdoll him right off the bat, if he so chooses. I guess Jace can win if Kanan attempts to bull rush him like those two retarded Sith warriors in the trailer? But even then, probably not, lol.
Because he's never utilised telekinesis to kill an opponent off the bat? He's knocked out Stormtroopers, sure, but he'd need force he's never shown to utilise to do the same to Jace who's far more durable, and wearing armour that tanks literal tanks shots.
And as soon as Jace actually starts firing with a greater fire rate/speed than a squad of Stormtroopers, Kanan should be hard pressed enough to defend against it that he can't utilise TK to fight back, and once he's on the defensive he should lose.
Originally posted by SelenialNo shit, but he's used the Force to throw around Stormtroopers like ragdolls off the bat, and frequently uses it in a supplementary way against them. What I'm saying is that he can use TK in that similar manner against Jace, and Jace has literally no defense against it.
Because he's never utilised telekinesis to kill an opponent off the bat?
Originally posted by SelenialKanan's suspended "giant" catwalks, stopped cave-ins when he hadn't used the Force in eight years (and ~eight years before SWR S2) and caught Ezra plummeting to Lothal's surface when he fell off the Ghost, so he's a pretty solid telekinetic in his own right. Jace's armor itself might be able to take a lot of damage, but when hitting his head against hard surfaces (Malgus in Hope) his armor won't matter as much, and will result in a KO. At the very least it will result in a disorienting experience and it will take more time for him to recover than for Kanan to cover the distance, even if he doesn't smash his head. And this is just talking about a single telekinetic push, lmao, not even accounting for the fact Kanan can TK the utter shit out of Jace as many times as he wants with a flick of his finger.
He's knocked out Stormtroopers, sure, but he'd need force he's never shown to utilise to do the same to Jace who's far more durable, and wearing armour that tanks literal tanks shots.
Originally posted by SelenialYeah, no. If the environement is open enough Kanan can easily bolt around enough so that his defenses aren't getting hammered down by the barrages of blaster bolts, and he hardly needs to be close to Jace to throw him around, and in that case it's game over.
And as soon as Jace actually starts firing with a greater fire rate/speed than a squad of Stormtroopers, Kanan should be hard pressed enough to defend against it that he can't utilise TK to fight back, and once he's on the defensive he should lose.
Is there any proof that Jace's armor can withstand tank cannon shots? If it's the Return trailer, he didn't really withstand the shot that didn't even hit him directly, in fact the shot hit near him and he was already in motion to get away from it, the blast just threw him forward onto the ground.
Sure he survived it, but saying he can tank, cannon shots without issue is kind of stretching that, seeing as he was on the floor for a couple of seconds from an indirect blast.
I mean Stormtrooper armor can withstand near point blank explosions that blow up houses and TIE fighters, but they certainly can't tank them.
Plus TK + Wearing armor= Not a good thing, as essentially one is just wearing something that your body would be smashing into along with whatever externally you're being smashed into.