Originally posted by MythLord
And it didn't cripple the ships; it killed the pilots inside the ships and since nobody could then operate the crafts, they crashed.
It short-circuited the Starships. The crew of each Starship got electrocuted as well since they were in contact with machinery.
Originally posted by MythLord
Vader tanking the lightning of Starkiller is honestly a better feat.
Starkiller have nothing on Valkorion.
Originally posted by MythLord
And Tyranus and Asajj have similar feats of plummeting from insane heights and surviving; the Count wasn't even harmed.
Arcann did not willfully descend in great physical shape and clear focus. He was bombarded with Force powers that eventually sent him flying below the platform.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And Anakin fell on a speeder. He did not fell at the bottom of Skycrapers. His plummet would be like a few hundred feet.In case of Arcann, the bottom was so deep that it was blurred to eye sight.
He would already have hit terminal velocity, so it hardly makes a difference. What makes it so impressive is that he times perfectly the fall onto a metallic speeder (which would also jerk him sideways), and with no injuries.
Originally posted by MythLord
What notes that is an instinctive barrier?And it didn't cripple the ships; it killed the pilots inside the ships and since nobody could then operate the crafts, they crashed.
Vader tanking the lightning of Starkiller is honestly a better feat.
And Tyranus and Asajj have similar feats of plummeting from insane heights and surviving; the Count wasn't even harmed.
Because Valkorion hits him with it almost instantaneously after a slow time scene.
Smoke and electric discharges as well as light flickering, he clearly damaged the ships too. This is only a fraction of the lightning Arcann himself was blocking.
Valkorion casually 'destroyed' Marr's body instantly, easily two-shotted a strike team of the most powerful Jedi in the Order, including the Hero and Tol Braga, pre-prime, and when massively pre-prime, overwhelmed Revan's tutaminis and paralysed him. Starkiller's lightning surpassing or equating that, is straight retarded.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Wrong.It short-circuited the Starships. The crew of each Starship got electrocuted as well since they were in contact with machinery.
And Vader couldn't defend against that with a Barrier, why?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You've got to be kidding me?Starkiller have nothing on Valkorion.
No shit Sherlock, but 'Killer's usual lightning barrages, or just in general feats of raw power, eclipse short-circuting ships and killing fodder.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Quantify insane heights please.Arcann did not willfully descend in great physical shape and clear focus. He was bombarded with Force powers that eventually sent him flying below the platform.
Dooku's should be of similar height as Arcann's, and Asajj's is unknown. And they didn't willfully go kamikaze and leap off massive heights, lmao. Dooku just fought both Mace and Kenobi and sustained several close range explosions before the platform he was standing on, and he himself plummeted to the ground. And Asajj got bombarded by an enraged Anakin's assault, after one of her arms got nearly snapped like a twig.
Originally posted by MythLord
No shit Sherlock, but 'Killer's usual lightning barrages, or just in general feats of raw power, eclipse short-circuting ships and killing fodder.
No, they don't. 😐
Originally posted by MythLord
Dooku's should be of similar height as Arcann's, and Asajj's is unknown. And they didn't willfully go kamikaze and leap off massive heights, lmao. Dooku just fought both Mace and Kenobi and sustained several close range explosions before the platform he was standing on, and he himself plummeted to the ground. And Asajj got bombarded by an enraged Anakin's assault, after one of her arms got nearly snapped like a twig.
Dooku fell into water though. 😬
Originally posted by AncientPower
Because Valkorion hits him with it almost instantaneously after a slow time scene.Smoke and electric discharges as well as light flickering, he clearly damaged the ships too. This is only a fraction of the lightning Arcann himself was blocking.
Valkorion casually 'destroyed' Marr's body instantly, easily two-shotted a strike team of the most powerful Jedi in the Order, including the Hero and Tol Braga, pre-prime, and when massively pre-prime, overwhelmed Revan's tutaminis and paralysed him. Starkiller's lightning surpassing or equating that, is straight retarded.
So what? Kas'im can throw up a Barrier "in an instant", and you're telling me Arcann cannot?
The only smoke I see is after two ships collide because their pilots died.
I'm not saying 'Killer > Valkorion, lmao. I'm saying the barrage of lightning Valkorion threw at Arcann in that instance isn't quite the same as an all-out Starkiller's barrage.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Valkorion casually 'destroyed' Marr's body instantly, easily two-shotted a strike team of the most powerful Jedi in the Order, including the Hero and Tol Braga, pre-prime, and when massively pre-prime, overwhelmed Revan's tutaminis and paralysed him. Starkiller's lightning surpassing or equating that, is straight retarded.
Lmao, Valkorion was weakened against Arcann.
This is what happens when he is not: https://youtu.be/2g7BwwggxFI?t=20m51s
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Tanking the centre of the explosion of the biggest weapon factory in the galaxy, tanking the explosion on Malachor >>> that.
Neither of those can be considered feats Zoltan, they are are tropes. Storytelling shorthands for a concept that the audience will recognize and understand instantly. In this case - the villain escapes the calamity around him to see another day:
We've all seen in on our TV sets or in comics. There is a catastrophic event that should have killed the antagonist, yet he lives. Much of the tanking is not displayed on screen, like Grievous above, who seemingly survives an explosion that can level an entire city - and come out unscathed. Yet we know of course, that Grievous will not be shrugging off that same level of damage in front of our eyes:
The same goes for Vader. The off screen element of his tanking on Malachor leaves the feat open to a range of borderline cases. Did he escape last minute and find cover? Possibly? He doesn't look too hot when it comes to tanking splash damage on-panel:
Quite clearly, it takes far less than Sith super-weapons to incapacitate Vader in the midst of combat.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaThis doesn't even make sense or fit in the story. Why would Valkorion be shitting on you for not being ready to defeat Arcann, and then praise you for proving yourself ready by defeating him if your achievement is solely based on a lightsaber? And Valky himself says that you have to finish your training or Arcann will defeat you, and then he does the amp thing. I'd say these matter more than a sketchy lightsaber amp that doesn't even make sense as a concept.
Don't find having a magic power up saber that only works against Arcann and beating him in a saber duel only because Arcann lost his footing to be all that impressive.
Also, doesn't Arcann's alignment to the Force make it harder for Jedi/Sith to fight him? In that sense, I personally think that the Outlander's new training and weapon is an answer to the advantage that Arcann already has.