Kenshiro VS. One Punch Man

Started by RealityWarper3 pages
Originally posted by Magnon
[B]Thus far Saitama has been able to resist every attack aimed at his chi/aura/spirit, in addition to those aimed at his body. Hokuto Shinken would fail as well.

All of the attacks involved could be resisted via durability or willpower.

Saitama doesn't know the techniques to counter Hokuto Shinken so one strike and he is done.


Muso Tensei has failed against opponents with particularly powerful auras. When Lord Boros read Saitama's power aura, he could sense no limits to it. Saitama's presence would make Kenshiro's technique fizzle.

You are making some definist fallacies to give a favorable outcome to the fight.

The only reason why Kenshiro stopped using the Muso Tensei was because he endured the effects of the space sickness but he is immune to that technique now and can do it too.

Moreover Kaioh absorbed his Chi but Kenshiro is immune to that technique and can do it too.


Saitama 10/10.

Saitama has 0 means to counter Kenshiro's techniques.

If anything Kenshiro wins 10/10.

Saitama's speed isn't in question. He's so fast Genos was actually landing blows against an after-image.

He's also got that technique where he basically sidesteps really fast and then takes a step forward. All of his afterimages hit you.

And lol at Kenshiro being this unstoppable monster. Saitama is one of the only 2 good guys in OPM-verse capable of stopping a God level threat. And Kenshrio stops him? Yeah right.

Originally posted by KingD19
Saitama's speed isn't in question. He's so fast Genos was actually landing blows against an after-image.

Yeah I've read both series.

And ?


He's also got that technique where he basically sidesteps really fast and then takes a step forward. All of his afterimages hit you.

That's not really a technique... He is just... Making sidesteps.

The entire point of the character is that he became a physical monster just with a very basic training.


And lol at Kenshiro being this unstoppable monster. Saitama is one of the only 2 good guys in OPM-verse capable of stopping a God level threat. And Kenshrio stops him? Yeah right.

Fine then you will show us feats from Saitama that will allow him to counter:

A) The Muso Tensei that makes Kenshiro impossible to touch.

B) A technique that Saitama possess and that will allow him to counter Kenshiro's attacks to his pressure-points.

Good luck with that.

A) Muso Tensei makes you immune to physical attacks, correct? What would a shockwave on the level Saitama can generate do? Are his ears and organs immune to being liquefied?

B)Kenshiro won't be able to hit him. He's too slow.

ALso, does Ken even go for MT like that? You make it seem like it's the only move in his arsenal.

Originally posted by KingD19
A) Muso Tensei makes you immune to physical attacks, correct?

You can't be touched but by someone mastering the Muso Tensei.

Saitama doesn't have the power-set to compete with Kenshiro despite his crazy raw power.


What would a shockwave on the level Saitama can generate do? Are his ears and organs immune to being liquefied?

Kenshiro's Muso Tensei will allow him to ignore it.


B)Kenshiro won't be able to hit him. He's too slow.

Based on ?


ALso, does Ken even go for MT like that? You make it seem like it's the only move in his arsenal.

It's not his only move but I see no reason to ignore it.

What proof do you have that MT will let him ignore non-physical attacks(which it's said it only defends against physical attacks) like a shockwave? Or a thunderclap so loud it'll liquefy his ear drums?

What speed feats does Ken have? Saitama effortlessly outspeeds people like Sonic and Flashy Flash(who can make multiple attacks in milliseconds and dodged Garou, which no one else could do). And moves so fast his after images have physical form? Iirc dodging/blocking crossbow arrows is a big deal in FotNS.

And I'm asking again, "Is Musou Tensi a move that Kenshiro goes to right away and uses all the time?" Because you're making it seem that way.

Originally posted by KingD19
[B]What proof do you have that MT will let him ignore non-physical attacks(which it's said it only defends against physical attacks) like a shockwave? Or a thunderclap so loud it'll liquefy his ear drums?

That's the entire point of the technique, it turns you into "nothing" then there is nothing to hit.


What speed feats does Ken have? Saitama effortlessly outspeeds people like Sonic and Flashy Flash(who can make multiple attacks in milliseconds and dodged Garou, which no one else could do). And moves so fast his after images have physical form? Iirc dodging/blocking crossbow arrows is a big deal in FotNS.

A) Kenshiro is extremely fast.

B) He is clearly more technical than Garou whom was able to anticipate Saitama's attack.

C) Muso Tensei: Saitama doesn't know what is it and Kenshiro can go straight to Saitama and hit him, ending the fight in the process.


And I'm asking again, "Is Musou Tensi a move that Kenshiro goes to right away and uses all the time?" Because you're making it seem that way.

A) Kenshiro can see the Chi of living creature so he will know how powerful Saitama is.

B) Psychology:

C) Forum Rules


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Saitama kills Kenshiro with a casual flick of his wrist.

Originally posted by Mindset
Saitama kills Kenshiro with a casual flick of his wrist.

But...Muso Tensei.

😆

Originally posted by Mindset
Saitama kills Kenshiro with a casual flick of his wrist.
Originally posted by KingD19
But...Muso Tensei.
Originally posted by iceman24567
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Kaioh negated Muso Tensei just with the power of his aura. Look it up.

Kenshiro loses to Genos.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Kaioh negated Muso Tensei just with the power of his aura. Look it up.

Kenshiro loses to Genos.

You negated Muso Tensei? MUSO TENSEI AGAIN! IT IS UNDEFEATABLE!!!

Originally posted by KingD19
You negated Muso Tensei? MUSO TENSEI AGAIN! IT IS UNDEFEATABLE!!!

No.

I know you're making fun of Reality warper, but his outright fanboy bias towards Kenshiro is outright embarrassing.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
No.

I know you're making fun of Reality warper, but his outright fanboy bias towards Kenshiro is outright embarrassing.

Hes worse in Sentry threads 😬

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Kaioh negated Muso Tensei just with the power of his aura. Look it up.

That's not the context of what happened...

Kaioh used the Anryu Tenha to create a Zero Gravity Space where Kenshiro suffered the weightlessness thus he lost his focus on his technique.

Kaioh didn't negated the Muso Tensei.

When Kenshiro faced Kaioh the second time, the Anryu Tenha was completely ineffective at disorienting him and he didn't even tried to counter the effect.
He let Kaioh hit him with his PP-techniques which were completely useless as Kenshiro countered them effortlessly.


Kenshiro loses to Genos.

Muso Tensei GG.

Kenshiro would kick Genos' butt too.

Good night. XD

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
No.

I know you're making fun of Reality warper, but his outright fanboy bias towards Kenshiro is outright embarrassing.

Rofl.

You are calling me biased and thus far you didn't provide a single argument able to counter Kenshiro's abilities.

That is being biased.

Anryu Tenha did negate it. But so did Kaoh's Matoki Aura, which was stated to be a powerful demonic aura. Now, Saitama's aura is so powerful that when he was joking with Genos about being serious, he literally saw his death and a giant personification of Saitama about to kill him. If his aura isn't powerful enough to dispel it, no one's is. But Kaoh did it, so Saitama should be able to as well.

You are biased though. We could put Ken up against Franklin Richards, and in your opinion, Muso Tensei would stop him from getting reality warped.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
That's not the context of what happened...

Kaioh used the Anryu Tenha to create a Zero Gravity Space where Kenshiro suffered the weightlessness thus he lost his focus on his technique.

Kaioh didn't negated the Muso Tensei.

When Kenshiro faced Kaioh the second time, the Anryu Tenha was completely ineffective at disorienting him and he didn't even tried to counter the effect.
He let Kaioh hit him with his PP-techniques which were completely useless as Kenshiro countered them effortlessly.

Muso Tensei GG.

Kenshiro would kick Genos' butt too.

Good night. XD

If weightlessness affects him, then it means he has weight in the first place. Meaning that energy, or aura can certainly affect him while using muso tensei. To the point where muso tensei is negated. Literally anyone with sufficient aura could disrupt it, and kill Kenshiro.

Even Genos is strong enough to do so.

Saitama kills him with a look.

Originally posted by KingD19
Anryu Tenha did negate it.

One more point that you are missing.
No.
The Anryu Tenha created a weightless and Kenshiro suffered the space sickness
the first time so he stopped focusing on his technique.

Read the story again, you will that I'm right about it.


But so did Kaoh's Matoki Aura, which was stated to be a powerful demonic aura.

Nope.

Kaioh's aura absorbed Ken's Chi which let him powerless against Kaioh...
But he countered the technique on their second confrontation.


Now, Saitama's aura is so powerful that when he was joking with Genos about being serious, he literally saw his death and a giant personification of Saitama about to kill him.

Genos was terrified by the power behind Saitama's punch.

His aura has nothing to do with that.


If his aura isn't powerful enough to dispel it, no one's is. But Kaoh did it, so Saitama should be able to as well.

Saitama has ZERO abilities besides being extremely strong and fast.

There is anything he can do.


You are biased though.

I'm not.

You are pulling abilities out-of-your-ass that Saitama doesn't possess to see Saitama wins.

There is Shariforce Iron Fist, now we can count on KingD19Force's Saitama.


We could put Ken up against Franklin Richards, and in your opinion, Muso Tensei would stop him from getting reality warped.

I think that reality warping is one of the rare abilities in comics capable to deal with the Muso Tensei so stop putting words in my mouth that I've never said.

Even then the outcome will depend on the writer. XD

So far you gave no valuable arguments and you end your post with that poor strawman...