Ranking Sidious without his Force Storms?

Unbowed, do you plan on another assault on Gideon Island, or have you conceded inferiority to The Sheev One?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Unbowed, do you plan on another assault on Gideon Island, or have you conceded inferiority to The Sheev One?

I shall never rest until everyone acknowledges both Exar Kun and Krayt as Sidious' superiors.

You = Failure.

Gideon = Success.

Have you embraced this fact? If not, what's your next assault to topple the throne?

Your efforts of destroying Palpatine and praising Kun and Krayt have been humiliating.

Do you plan to champion a new character, or what? Share, share.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You = Failure.

Gideon = Success.

Have you embraced this fact? If not, what's your next assault to topple the throne?

Your efforts of destroying Palpatine and praising Kun and Krayt have been humiliating.

Do you plan to champion a new character, or what? Share, share.

And I don't hate Sidious, just his fans. I just acknowledge Sidious' proper place in the Sith hierarchy.

Without the storms he's the second most powerful Sith Lord imo. Vitiate has feats putting him above Sidious in a couple regards, and Valkorion is already superior to DE Sidious WITH Storms. Those Storms are quite literally the only thing that make him the most powerful Sith, otherwise Vitiate is superior.

a rather drastic change of heart Darthant66, Gideon must be a success for his appearance to suddenly change your opinion on the matter:

Ziggy, can you direct me to a thread where you've said something remotely funny and/or relevant?

How about the time I provoked - ITS KULLVAX!!Ih8 her. That was pretty amusing an relevant enough for you to cry about it.

Originally posted by Unbowed
I don't know about Kun but I count my efforts for Krayt as a success given the fact that a certain someone who posted in this thread ran from that Krayt/Luke vs Abeloth thread with his tail between his legs. 😗

It says something about your unfamiliarity with victory that you would conflate it with argumentum ad nauseam. Plenty of people called you out on your skewed interpretation, Nai, Ares, and NewGuy included. If it comforts you to think you won simply because I got tired of talking about it, by all means.

Originally posted by Unbowed
And I don't hate Sidious, just his fans. I just acknowledge Sidious' proper place in the Sith hierarchy.

You should also know that Sheevites thrive off hatred, so all you do is fuel their power.

Seems like asking authors to comment on works they've made years ago isn't very reliable - and yes, that extends beyond Veitch. Veitch himself has Palpatine using Force Storms without "mental conflict", and in the audio drama, Palpatine clearly doesn't need any mental conflict to enact his powers.

It's a bizarre thing to say really. Since when do mental struggles create sudden explosions of Force energy. And where in the text does Palpatine engage in this struggle with Luke?

There's not, him and Palps just connect minds. There's no evidence of any struggle. The only time he actually loses control, was when Luke and Leia did the Force Harmony thing.

Plus, if all the other stuff is true...then how exactly did Palpatine transport Luke? I mean the only other way, is him knowing Fold Space, but I'm pretty sure that ability came after DE. Yet it's made quite clear that it's a hyperspace wormhole that transports Luke even before they touch minds, if Palpatine couldn't control them...then I don't see how Luke could survive.

Other sources confirm that Palpatine learnt the power and practiced it before DE, too. Whose minds was he struggling with every time he tried it those times?