Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Yet the sith/republic in space over Ziost were not affected by the nexus, nor Vitiate's rituals after/discussion
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What nexus? Weren't you just spending several posts trying to debunk Nathema, and now you're drawing upon an identical example? You can't have two bites of the cherry, lol.
Revan could draw upon the nexus, and that's it. Valkorion, who's infinitely more powerful and masterful in the ways of the Force than Revan, would obviously be able to do the same. Suggesting otherwise is cancer beyond cancer.
What nexus? Weren't you just spending several posts trying to debunk Nathema, and now you're drawing upon an identical example? You can't have two bites of the cherry, lol.
Originally posted by SunRazer
The fact that Revan could draw upon the nexus from Malachor's orbit only proves that it can be drawn upon in space. Valkorion, who's far more powerful, knowledgeable and masterful in the Force than Mandalorian Wars Revan, can't do that, now?
Revan had to go out of his way to do that, Valkorion attacked Marr at a moments notice. There'd be no time for him to draw the power up into space. Nor would it do anything since his target was Marr. It would be a useless thing to do.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Yet the sith/republic in space over Ziost were not affected by the nexus, nor Vitiate's rituals after/discussion
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Affected... how?
SunRazer
Revan could draw upon the nexus, and that's it. Valkorion, who's infinitely more powerful and masterful in the ways of the Force than Revan, would obviously be able to do the same.
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Originally posted by Nephthys
Revan had to go out of his way to do that, Valkorion attacked Marr at a moments notice. There'd be no time for him to draw the power up into space. Nor would it do anything since his target was Marr. It would be a useless thing to do.
"Had to go out of his way" means what, in terms of time? And where is the evidence for this?
And given that Marr was beating the shit out of the Zakuul Knights for several critical seconds before Valkorion intervened, I'd say he had plenty of time.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
You really can't keep up with the discussion can you?
I'm failing to keep up with the shit that's coming out of your mouth. It's coming out a lot faster than I can replace the buckets underneath 👆
There's nothing to debunk on Nathema, that's how bad your argument was. It wasn't a nexus.
And post-ritual Ziost is different how?
The argument here is that if a nexus extends into space, then those on the space station over ziost would have been affected before, during and after the ritual. They weren't. The end. Please try and keep up, otherwise you're just here for amusement at this point.
Well, for one, they felt what happened on Ziost. Secondly, your lack of response to the Revan point constitutes a concession, no?
I'm failing to keep up with the shit that's coming out of your mouth. It's coming out a lot faster than I can replace the buckets underneath thumb up
And post-ritual Ziost is different how?
Well, for one, they felt what happened on Ziost. Secondly, your lack of response to the Revan constitutes a concession, no?
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
There were no effects from Vitiate's takeover of all the bodies, there were no effects from the ritual.
Because Vitiate was preoccupied with the planet and not the forces in orbit?
Planet and nexus aren't synonymous or intended to be used interchangeably. It doesn't follow that what affects a planetary body must therefore affect everything around it.
The point is that the idea that someone can't draw on a nexus from space has been debunked. Which it has.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Because Vitiate was preoccupied with the planet and not the forces in orbit?Planet and nexus aren't synonymous or intended to be used interchangeably. It doesn't follow that what affects a planetary body must therefore affect everything around it.
The point is that the idea that someone can't draw on a nexus from space has been debunked. Which it has.
The actual point is whether or not a nexus extends into space. You've supposedly given an example of where it does, and I've given you an example of where it doesn't, so nothing has been debunked.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Ok so you can't keep up with the discussion, we understand 😂
You can't even read basic sentences, so I'd watch the insults. You're about as bright as Ziost was after the ritual.
I notice you ignore the before and during part. Very convenient.
This isn't a hair treatment commercial. Just because they can draw on the Force below doesn't mean they die if the planet below does, lol.
Nope, because you were given an example of a nexus that didn't extend into space, so I accept yours.
So you have no response to the Revan point, which is the most pertinent one here, and you instead try to deflect to this to save face?
What's hilarious is that even if I concede to this, I still win because the relevant example here - the identical scenario - is the Revan one, which you have no counter for.
You can't even read basic sentences, so I'd watch the insults. You're about as bright as Ziost was after the ritual.
This isn't a hair treatment commercial. Just because they can draw on the Force below doesn't mean they die if the planet below does, lol.
So you have no response to the Revan point, which is the most pertinent one here, and you instead try to deflect to this to save face?
What's hilarious is that even if I concede to this, I still win because the relevant example here - the identical scenario - is the Revan one, which you have no counter for.
You haven't, since nexus and planet don't mean the same thing. Vitiate ate the planet. That in no way means it has to necessarily affect things off the planet.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
That's cute. Getting your ass kicks translates into you bitching and moaning insults that don't make any sense 👆
You ran away after being destroyed in the Drain debate in the other thread.
The insults came from you first, by the way.
As usual, that made no sense.
To you, perhaps.
Sort of like you're continuing posting after getting your ass kicked?
Ass kicked defines what happened to you in that other thread, definitely. As for continuing to post afterwards - yeah, after you showed that you couldn't comprehend Zoltan's sentences, that's exactly what you did.
There's nothing to respond to in Revan's case because I gave you another case.
So you have no response, but it's all good because you can bring up another example?
Let's try the inverse of that. There's nothing to respond to in this case, because I gave you another one - Revan's case.
You win the "can a nexus extend into space" argument. You don't win the "all nexus' extends into space" argument. Move along.
And before the ritual? Everyone on the planet was affected, everyone in space was not. Again, if anything was proven, is that a nexus [b]could extend into space, not that it necessarily does. [/B]
One of the longest versions of "I concede" that I've ever seen. But I'll accept it.
You ran away after being destroyed in the Drain debate in the other thread.The insults came from you first, by the way.
Ass kicked defines what happened to you in that other thread, definitely. As for continuing to post afterwards - yeah, after you showed that you couldn't comprehend Zoltan's sentences, that's exactly what you did.
o you have no response, but it's all good because you can bring up another example?
Seeing as how this debate is pretty much over and you got killed on the other one, you will continue to ***** and moan indefinitely so I'll move on to responding to rational human beings until you have something intelligent to add, mk?
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
I didn't run away, I reduced your arguments to dust and you've been bitching ever since.
Huh. Guess who failed to respond when the debate reached its climax? And I was entertaining you that entire debate. If I wanted to, I could've destroyed your entire argument by saying this - you were denying me my quote on the basis that it was from the DS version, yet you base your entire argument around a quote... from the DS version.
Sure.. I could comprehend fine. The fact that your go to insult after getting butthurt is "well you don't understand sentences", I'm starting to think you don't know what that means. But please by all means, bring up other threads I dominated just to rationalize your own demise.
I'm sure you'll be able to gather many people who can genuinely verify that you dominated anything but the illusion that you were worth responding to.
Uh, you tried to use the Revan example to prove all nexus' extend into space. I debunked that with an example where it doesn't. What are you not getting? Concession accepted.
And why doesn't the inverse work? You're trying to prove otherwise with this example, and I debunked that with an example where it does. What are you not getting? It's a stupid argument and doesn't work. Concession accepted.
As I said, even if I conceded this point, the comparison's not all that relatable to Valkorion over Zakuul. On the other hand, Revan's certainly is, so you'd still be burdened with disproving that even if I conceded this. But there's nothing to concede to at the moment, since you don't even have an argument.
Seeing as how this debate is pretty much over and you got killed on the other one, you will continue to ***** and moan indefinitely so I'll move on to responding to rational human beings until you have something intelligent to add, mk?
The last intelligent thing in this discussion was the Revan example, which you ran away from. But please, keep deluding yourself with illusions of how you walk over everyone else here. I'm sure such a big ego takes up all the space in your brain and leaves nothing for an genuinely intelligent discussion.
I'm sure you'll be able to gather many people who can genuinely verify that you dominated anything but the illusion that you were worth responding to.
The last intelligent thing in this discussion was the Revan example, which you ran away from. But please, keep deluding yourself with illusions of how you walk over everyone else here. I'm sure such a big ego takes up all the space in your brain and leaves nothing for an genuinely intelligent discussion.
Originally posted by SunRazer
*Yawn*. When you decide to actually respond to the point, call me. Until then, I think there's nothing here worthy of sustained effort and attention.
I believe i've already done that. You basically said "nope I can't hear you". That was too easy frankly so I'll allow you to keep bitching.